This week on The Conversation, Adam sits down with author and pastor, Glenn Packiam. Glenn and Adam talk about why unity is one of the biggest challenges facing the church, the blessings and challenges of being a pastor, & how to find community. Glenn also shares his best advice on surviving the crisis you're facing and what you can learn about yourself in the process. Get a copy of Glenn's new book, The Resilient Pastor, here: amzn.to/3uAWDUw