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In this powerful episode, Susan Guthrie is joined by Michael Holmes, Chief Product Officer at FourthParty, for a conversation every mediator and ADR professional needs to hear. Michael, a legal mind with an entrepreneurial edge, has worked with hundreds of mediators to build thriving practices, and he’s here to share the client-first strategy that top-performing professionals never overlook.
While many mediators focus on honing their skills in the room, Michael makes a compelling case that what really sets the best apart is their commitment to the entire client experience, from first click to final invoice. With industry growth projected at 7.3% annually (the highest of any profession, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics), it’s more important than ever to stand out with smart systems, seamless communication, and true operational elegance.
Plus, Michael shares a free downloadable resource: the Client Experience Scorecard, a self-audit tool to help you identify gaps in your intake, communication, and billing workflows.
Here’s what else you’ll hear in this episode:
More About This Week's Special Guest, Michael Holmes: Michael Holmes is a creative strategist with a strong legal background, entrepreneurial spirit, and a knack for technological innovation. He is the Chief Product Officer at FourthParty, an ADR tech and practice development company, where he helps mediators launch, manage and grow their businesses through smarter, client-centric systems and methods.
Website: http://fourthparty.app. Be sure to grab your copy of the Client Experience Scorecard at FourthParty.app.
Social Media:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-holmes-5b940391/
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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie
Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.
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In this powerful episode, Susan Guthrie is joined by Michael Holmes, Chief Product Officer at FourthParty, for a conversation every mediator and ADR professional needs to hear. Michael, a legal mind with an entrepreneurial edge, has worked with hundreds of mediators to build thriving practices, and he’s here to share the client-first strategy that top-performing professionals never overlook.
While many mediators focus on honing their skills in the room, Michael makes a compelling case that what really sets the best apart is their commitment to the entire client experience, from first click to final invoice. With industry growth projected at 7.3% annually (the highest of any profession, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics), it’s more important than ever to stand out with smart systems, seamless communication, and true operational elegance.
Plus, Michael shares a free downloadable resource: the Client Experience Scorecard, a self-audit tool to help you identify gaps in your intake, communication, and billing workflows.
Here’s what else you’ll hear in this episode:
More About This Week's Special Guest, Michael Holmes: Michael Holmes is a creative strategist with a strong legal background, entrepreneurial spirit, and a knack for technological innovation. He is the Chief Product Officer at FourthParty, an ADR tech and practice development company, where he helps mediators launch, manage and grow their businesses through smarter, client-centric systems and methods.
Website: http://fourthparty.app. Be sure to grab your copy of the Client Experience Scorecard at FourthParty.app.
Social Media:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-holmes-5b940391/
====================
This Episode is Sponsored by Smith.ai
Never miss a client call again. Smith.ai’s 24/7 virtual receptionists combine live agents + AI to answer calls, chats, and texts — helping you capture more leads and boost client satisfaction.
MMMP Listeners Get:
🔗 Learn more: bit.ly/MMMP-SmithAI
============================
WANT MORE CONTENT?
Get SUSAN'S FREE BOOK: https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/su/tFTeMJf/SuccesswithSusan
Get the FREE LinkedIn Newsletter from Susan, "Practice Building Tip of the Day": Weekly Practice Building Tips Newsletter
Susan's New Weekly Business Journal is NOW AVAILABLE! https://susaneguthrie.com/the-journal
Reach out to Susan at [email protected]
Susan's Coaching Services: https://susaneguthrie.com/services
Website: https://susaneguthrie.com
Social Media:
Susan on Instagram: https://instagram.com/susanguthrieesq
Susan on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie
Make Money Mediating on Instagram: https://instagram.com/makemoneymediating
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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie
Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.
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