(00:00-09:54): Austin Massey, co-owner of Viator Coffee Cart, joins the show for the hour. He discusses his background and journey to operating a coffee cart. He ties in the readings of Paul and how serving others is what Christ calls us to do. 

(09:54-20:24): Austin discusses the difficulties in deciding to open his own business. He thought he had an investor on the line, but he backed out because it was “too high risk”. With a wife and child to support, he went to the Lord. Was it in his timing?

(20:24-29:20): Austin touches on his band “Flocks and the Lookout”, of whom he was in with his wife. Ian is raving about it. He also talks about the point when it was time to take a risk, make a decision and take action. He made sure his family was taken care of, knew where his paychecks were coming from, etc. 

(29:20-38:44): Austin closes out the hour to talk worship and the ministry he does through his church, Arising Church. He also talks about how his journey to owning a business inspired random investors around him to contribute to it. 

(39:47-48:50): George Koch, author of “What We Believe and Why” joins Ian for the second half to talk about New Jerusalem House of Prayer, the first Messionic Anglican Congregation in the United States, where he is a pastor. He describes “Messionic Anglican” as a bridge built between the different theological bases. Scripture reference: John 17.

(48:50-58:02): George was a member of the NAACP, and it wasn’t, at all, what he expected it to be. After spending time with other members, he came to realize that the only difference between he and them was the color of their skin. 

(58:02-1:07:23): George talks about how Jesus simplified what the commandments are. People approached Jesus and asked him what the greatest commandment was, His response was “Love the Lord your God” and second is “Love others as yourself”. Love is the foundation of everything.

(1:07:23-1:16:43): George closes out the hour talking about the first fruits (Shabbat). Jesus rose from the dead on the day of first fruits, making him the first fruit from the dead, and the birth of the church is on the second harvest, otherwise known as PENTECOST; Scripture reference: Matthew 26. He discusses “The Bait of Satan” which talks about how allowing oneself to be offended is how Satan pulls you into his grasp.v

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(00:00-09:54): Austin Massey, co-owner of Viator Coffee Cart, joins the show for the hour. He discusses his background and journey to operating a coffee cart. He ties in the readings of Paul and how serving others is what Christ calls us to do. 

(09:54-20:24): Austin discusses the difficulties in deciding to open his own business. He thought he had an investor on the line, but he backed out because it was “too high risk”. With a wife and child to support, he went to the Lord. Was it in his timing?

(20:24-29:20): Austin touches on his band “Flocks and the Lookout”, of whom he was in with his wife. Ian is raving about it. He also talks about the point when it was time to take a risk, make a decision and take action. He made sure his family was taken care of, knew where his paychecks were coming from, etc. 

(29:20-38:44): Austin closes out the hour to talk worship and the ministry he does through his church, Arising Church. He also talks about how his journey to owning a business inspired random investors around him to contribute to it. 

(39:47-48:50): George Koch, author of “What We Believe and Why” joins Ian for the second half to talk about New Jerusalem House of Prayer, the first Messionic Anglican Congregation in the United States, where he is a pastor. He describes “Messionic Anglican” as a bridge built between the different theological bases. Scripture reference: John 17.

(48:50-58:02): George was a member of the NAACP, and it wasn’t, at all, what he expected it to be. After spending time with other members, he came to realize that the only difference between he and them was the color of their skin. 

(58:02-1:07:23): George talks about how Jesus simplified what the commandments are. People approached Jesus and asked him what the greatest commandment was, His response was “Love the Lord your God” and second is “Love others as yourself”. Love is the foundation of everything.

(1:07:23-1:16:43): George closes out the hour talking about the first fruits (Shabbat). Jesus rose from the dead on the day of first fruits, making him the first fruit from the dead, and the birth of the church is on the second harvest, otherwise known as PENTECOST; Scripture reference: Matthew 26. He discusses “The Bait of Satan” which talks about how allowing oneself to be offended is how Satan pulls you into his grasp.v

(00:00-10:35): Do we need to re-imagine evangelism? Ed Stetzer writes about his take on different and new approaches to those we witness to. Brian and Ian discuss how people view evangelists and how they encounter those who they want to talk to.

(10:35-21:04): Why does Hillsong appeal to communist-centered Budapest, as well as Post-Church Seattle? Brian and Ian touch on the theology of worship and how we need to be cautious about losing focus and using worship for capital gain. 

(21:04-31:09): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(31:09-39:55): Karl Vaders writes, “10 Questions More Important Than “What Was Your Sunday Attendance?” in Christianity Today. Brian and Ian reflect on this as pastors and say they’ve gotten this question too many times.

(40:58-51:09): Danny McBride writes and directs an HBO show called “Righteous Gemstones” about a corrupt megachurch pastor and his family. McBride in an interview with Dax Shepard explains his painful experience with the church and roots those situations into the show. 

(51:09-1:00:54): Brian got an oil change, but what does that have to do with Christianity? He makes an interesting connection between getting rid of the sludge in our cars and getting rid of the sludge in our spiritual lives. What is the sludge that we need to filter out on a daily basis?

(1:00:54-1:11:36): Trygve Johnson writes “Gen Z Is Making Me a Better Preacher” in Christianity Today. There are new ways pastors and preachers address the younger generation in sermons. Brian and Ian reflect on this and relate to their own congregations. 

(1:11:36-1:18:10): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: Apparently a giant lives in the clouds in the skies above Jersey. A new skydiving attraction features dodging a fighter jet. Florida article offers fun activities and history of biscuits. SoMa is so scary with biting folks on the streets. Meanwhile, show-and-tell in Sweden is being blown out of proportion.

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(00:00-10:35): Do we need to re-imagine evangelism? Ed Stetzer writes about his take on different and new approaches to those we witness to. Brian and Ian discuss how people view evangelists and how they encounter those who they want to talk to.

(10:35-21:04): Why does Hillsong appeal to communist-centered Budapest, as well as Post-Church Seattle? Brian and Ian touch on the theology of worship and how we need to be cautious about losing focus and using worship for capital gain. 

(21:04-31:09): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(31:09-39:55): Karl Vaders writes, “10 Questions More Important Than “What Was Your Sunday Attendance?” in Christianity Today. Brian and Ian reflect on this as pastors and say they’ve gotten this question too many times.

(40:58-51:09): Danny McBride writes and directs an HBO show called “Righteous Gemstones” about a corrupt megachurch pastor and his family. McBride in an interview with Dax Shepard explains his painful experience with the church and roots those situations into the show. 

(51:09-1:00:54): Brian got an oil change, but what does that have to do with Christianity? He makes an interesting connection between getting rid of the sludge in our cars and getting rid of the sludge in our spiritual lives. What is the sludge that we need to filter out on a daily basis?

(1:00:54-1:11:36): Trygve Johnson writes “Gen Z Is Making Me a Better Preacher” in Christianity Today. There are new ways pastors and preachers address the younger generation in sermons. Brian and Ian reflect on this and relate to their own congregations. 

(1:11:36-1:18:10): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: Apparently a giant lives in the clouds in the skies above Jersey. A new skydiving attraction features dodging a fighter jet. Florida article offers fun activities and history of biscuits. SoMa is so scary with biting folks on the streets. Meanwhile, show-and-tell in Sweden is being blown out of proportion.

(00:00-10:23): 7-year-old boy living in a domestic violence shelter asks Santa for 'good dad'. Ian and Brian discuss this heartbreaking story in the wake of a holiday that we sometimes take for granted. "Blake's story is like every story we see,"..."The problem is so pervasive."

(10:23-19:51): Community Pastor Ted Coniaris of Christian Community Church in Downers Grove joins Ian for the rest of the show. He talks about his role in planting new churches. 

(19:51-29:30): Ted Coniaris sticks around to discuss balance of life, help, community, and taking a break in leadership. He also discusses differentiating seasons and patterns while maintaining a presence in the church community.

(29:30-38:30): Ted closes out the show and talks about the Grove Fest. Christian Community holds an event, which is basically a church service in the center of the event. He also discusses his role in his community, throwing parties, helping people make meaningful connections, and so forth. 

(39:34-49:25): Christmas music may take mental toll, psychologist says. For those who would rather do without "Jingle Bells," a psychologist in Great Britain thinks you may be on to something. Brian and Ian discuss the consumerism behind the early holiday celebration and decorating. 

(49:25-59:56): Allie Casazza writes “Why I Let My Kids Feel the Weight of the World”. This compelling piece describes how parents ought to instill the responsibility of changing the world on children. Brian and Ian touch on this and reflect as parents how they try to do the same. 

(59:56-1:10:01): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(1:16:43-1:10:01): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: Video killed...absolutely nothing, but is leaving TV’s for people. I’m not going to say it was aliens, but Bernie certainly will, and you thought freakin’ vegans were bad...Amazon Alexa now a viable weapon. Meanwhile, with rising gas prices, folks are resorting to...FRYING...their engines.

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(00:00-10:23): 7-year-old boy living in a domestic violence shelter asks Santa for 'good dad'. Ian and Brian discuss this heartbreaking story in the wake of a holiday that we sometimes take for granted. "Blake's story is like every story we see,"..."The problem is so pervasive."

(10:23-19:51): Community Pastor Ted Coniaris of Christian Community Church in Downers Grove joins Ian for the rest of the show. He talks about his role in planting new churches. 

(19:51-29:30): Ted Coniaris sticks around to discuss balance of life, help, community, and taking a break in leadership. He also discusses differentiating seasons and patterns while maintaining a presence in the church community.

(29:30-38:30): Ted closes out the show and talks about the Grove Fest. Christian Community holds an event, which is basically a church service in the center of the event. He also discusses his role in his community, throwing parties, helping people make meaningful connections, and so forth. 

(39:34-49:25): Christmas music may take mental toll, psychologist says. For those who would rather do without "Jingle Bells," a psychologist in Great Britain thinks you may be on to something. Brian and Ian discuss the consumerism behind the early holiday celebration and decorating. 

(49:25-59:56): Allie Casazza writes “Why I Let My Kids Feel the Weight of the World”. This compelling piece describes how parents ought to instill the responsibility of changing the world on children. Brian and Ian touch on this and reflect as parents how they try to do the same. 

(59:56-1:10:01): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(1:16:43-1:10:01): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: Video killed...absolutely nothing, but is leaving TV’s for people. I’m not going to say it was aliens, but Bernie certainly will, and you thought freakin’ vegans were bad...Amazon Alexa now a viable weapon. Meanwhile, with rising gas prices, folks are resorting to...FRYING...their engines.

(00:00-10:24): Santa Rethinks 'Naughty or Nice' in W+K's Remarkable Mental Health Ad. Brian and Ian listen to a dramatic take on how we view naughty and nice kids. Are we punishing kids for coming into their own, or going through emotionally toiling times? 

(10:24-20:23): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(20:23-29:58): Dan Frio posted a thought-provoking premise on Facebook: “The difference between a boss and a leader.” Brian and Ian discuss this post. There is an important balance of authority and empathy authority figures should have. 

(29:58-39:28): Former sponsored child is now the Archbishop of Kenya’s Anglican Church. Brian and Ian reflect on this amazing story. They emphasize the movement of the power of God, especially from low places and poverty. As long as anyone has the slightest faith, [Luke 17:6] God moves. 

(40:31-49:37): Ministry leader and minister from the Reformed Church of America, John Armstrong joins Ian for the remainder of the show. He talks about how Christians from different denominations do not talk on a common level. Do they have different goals other than following Christ?

(49:37-59:03): John and Ian continue the topic of fellowship in an interdenominational manner and dive deeper into “ecclesial” friendships. Jesus expresses friendship and love as a vital part of being a follower. 

(59:03-1:09:11): Apart from friendship and being kind, we must set aside differences to find a common ground. John started a community called The Initiative that brings people from all over the theological and social spectrum to a common space to talk. 

 

(1:09:11-1:18:08): John closes out the show to talk about the “Theology of Politics”. He believes it is important to discuss political implications and conflicts with the gospel in mind. He implores people to read Luke Brotherton’s “Christ and the Common Life: Political Theology and the Case for Democracy.”

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(00:00-10:24): Santa Rethinks 'Naughty or Nice' in W+K's Remarkable Mental Health Ad. Brian and Ian listen to a dramatic take on how we view naughty and nice kids. Are we punishing kids for coming into their own, or going through emotionally toiling times? 

(10:24-20:23): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(20:23-29:58): Dan Frio posted a thought-provoking premise on Facebook: “The difference between a boss and a leader.” Brian and Ian discuss this post. There is an important balance of authority and empathy authority figures should have. 

(29:58-39:28): Former sponsored child is now the Archbishop of Kenya’s Anglican Church. Brian and Ian reflect on this amazing story. They emphasize the movement of the power of God, especially from low places and poverty. As long as anyone has the slightest faith, [Luke 17:6] God moves. 

(40:31-49:37): Ministry leader and minister from the Reformed Church of America, John Armstrong joins Ian for the remainder of the show. He talks about how Christians from different denominations do not talk on a common level. Do they have different goals other than following Christ?

(49:37-59:03): John and Ian continue the topic of fellowship in an interdenominational manner and dive deeper into “ecclesial” friendships. Jesus expresses friendship and love as a vital part of being a follower. 

(59:03-1:09:11): Apart from friendship and being kind, we must set aside differences to find a common ground. John started a community called The Initiative that brings people from all over the theological and social spectrum to a common space to talk. 

 

(1:09:11-1:18:08): John closes out the show to talk about the “Theology of Politics”. He believes it is important to discuss political implications and conflicts with the gospel in mind. He implores people to read Luke Brotherton’s “Christ and the Common Life: Political Theology and the Case for Democracy.”

(00:00-09:20): In an article by The Happy Givers, there is an important distinction between guiding and leading, and controlling. Control can be categorized as an addiction and Brian and Ian touch on how convicting it is as a leader. 

(09:20-18:45):  “Knowing God’s Love is Impossible,” Derek Rishmawy writes in Christianity Today. Ian remarks about his mom’s homeless ministry and how the volunteers and residents of the shelter express unconditional love. How do we comprehend His love unless we live it by example?

(18:45-27:52): Matt Chandler: Many Christians are 'ill-prepared theologically to understand suffering'. Brian and Ian discuss misconceptions many Christians have when it comes to suffering and shared how believers can live in joy when times of sorrow come.

(27:52-37:51): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(38:54-49:03): On the topic of opulence and spending a lot of money, Brian and Ian read over this Finance 101 article that lists the 25 wealthiest religious leaders. You might (or might not) be surprised to see who’s on the list. 

(49:03-59:33): We are joined by Phil Vischer, creator of VeggieTales and the author of the “Laugh and Learn Bible For Kids”. He touches on the teaching power of the show as well as the importance of kids getting the big picture of the bible. 

(59:33-1:09:40): Phil sticks around to talk about the new VeggieTales episodes and how he aims to make it like the VeggieTales of old. Sony and Universal are picking up the show and airing it on Trinity Broadcast Network. Phil also touches on his podcast “The Holy Post”. 

(1:09:40-1:15:33): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: A Florida town isn’t big enough for the two of us, and seriously people just take a late write-up. Beer is the cause and solution to most of life’s problems, and United has a new preventative lock on their bathrooms that works too well. Meanwhile, labradoodles are the devil

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(00:00-09:20): In an article by The Happy Givers, there is an important distinction between guiding and leading, and controlling. Control can be categorized as an addiction and Brian and Ian touch on how convicting it is as a leader. 

(09:20-18:45):  “Knowing God’s Love is Impossible,” Derek Rishmawy writes in Christianity Today. Ian remarks about his mom’s homeless ministry and how the volunteers and residents of the shelter express unconditional love. How do we comprehend His love unless we live it by example?

(18:45-27:52): Matt Chandler: Many Christians are 'ill-prepared theologically to understand suffering'. Brian and Ian discuss misconceptions many Christians have when it comes to suffering and shared how believers can live in joy when times of sorrow come.

(27:52-37:51): We are joined again by Todd Chatman to talk about the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. For just $82, you can feed an entire family for a year. Call to give at 855-901-4673 or give online here: http://www.foodforthepoor.com/wyll. Todd talks about the reality of poverty in Haiti and the conditions of the streets of their biggest city.

(38:54-49:03): On the topic of opulence and spending a lot of money, Brian and Ian read over this Finance 101 article that lists the 25 wealthiest religious leaders. You might (or might not) be surprised to see who’s on the list. 

(49:03-59:33): We are joined by Phil Vischer, creator of VeggieTales and the author of the “Laugh and Learn Bible For Kids”. He touches on the teaching power of the show as well as the importance of kids getting the big picture of the bible. 

(59:33-1:09:40): Phil sticks around to talk about the new VeggieTales episodes and how he aims to make it like the VeggieTales of old. Sony and Universal are picking up the show and airing it on Trinity Broadcast Network. Phil also touches on his podcast “The Holy Post”. 

(1:09:40-1:15:33): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: A Florida town isn’t big enough for the two of us, and seriously people just take a late write-up. Beer is the cause and solution to most of life’s problems, and United has a new preventative lock on their bathrooms that works too well. Meanwhile, labradoodles are the devil