In this open and thoughtful conversation, David Marshall is joined by Barrie Gellis—long-time student of The Seth Material and one of the few people to have attended Jane Roberts' original ESP classes. 

Together, they explore some of the most common misunderstandings surrounding Seth’s teachings and reflect on the deeper implications for those genuinely working with the material. 

Explore David's new spiritual community here: https://www.skool.com/modernmystic-6035/about

Links to Barrie's books here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Barrie-Gellis/author/B002BM45K6

This is not a teaching or a lecture, but a shared inquiry into the subtle and sometimes misinterpreted layers of one of the most influential channeled works of the 20th century.

Key topics covered include: 0:00 • Misconceptions about Framework 1 and Framework 2

(4:40): Gellis explains that many people overemphasize F2 (non-physical reality) and dismiss F1 (physical reality) as an illusion. He stresses that both are real and serve crucial purposes.

05:18 • The Purpose of Linear Time (5:18): Linear time in physical reality provides a necessary "pause to reflect," which is essential for learning and spiritual evolution, particularly in understanding "violations of natural guilt" (8:08).

08:08 • Violations of Natural Guilt (8:08): This concept refers to violating one's own nature of love, compassion, and goodness, which occurs when harming others. Natural guilt acts as an inner trigger to prevent repeating harmful acts.

10.08 • The Importance of Helping Others (10:08): Gellis emphasizes that while creating one's own reality, it's crucial to include helping and not harming others. He clarifies that dismissing others' suffering by saying "they created their reality" is a misunderstanding of Seth's teachings (11:06).

18:13 • The Concept of "Victims" (18:33): Gellis clarifies that while on a deeper level there are no victims (as individuals subconsciously choose their reality), the term "victim" is valid in physical reality to describe someone who experiences harm they didn't consciously choose or want.

28:03 • Judging Reality vs. Judging People (28:03): The discussion highlights that assessing one's reality and judging situations is a necessary part of growth, but this differs from judging individuals as inherently bad or unworthy.

40:08 • Changing Beliefs (40:08): Gellis shares his personal experience of changing the belief that "people are good" and the importance of recognizing that good is stronger than evil. He suggests exploring one's beliefs, especially those related to personal struggles, through stream of consciousness writing to identify and change them (20:49).

1:10:41. • Love as the Foundation of Reality (1:10:41): Both David Marshall and Barrie Gellis agree that love is a fundamental condition and the basis for all existence, holding reality together. 1.13:55 • Kindness as a Superpower 

(1:13:55): Gellis describes kindness as a revolutionary power that is often underrated and goes beyond mere behavior.

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You’re doing the inner work. You’ve got the skills. You care deeply.

So why isn’t the money flowing?

In this powerful episode, David Marshall unpacks the real reason so many heart-led coaches and healers stay stuck at low income levels—even when they’re showing up, serving, and trying to “manifest.” It’s not your niche. It’s not your content. It’s your unconscious beliefs.

➡️ Discover the hidden thought patterns sabotaging your income ➡️ Learn how beliefs form your business reality ➡️ Get the antidote to the “energetic mismatch” no one talks about

This isn’t just mindset fluff—it’s a call to radical self-honesty and conscious creation. If you’re tired of spiritual bypassing and ready to build real momentum, this episode is your next step.

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We’re halfway through the year… so how’s your money energy?

If you’re still stuck in old income patterns, feeling blocked around receiving, or frustrated with feast-or-famine cycles — this 20-minute Money Reboot is for you.

Inside, I’ll guide you through:

✨ Why core money beliefs (not mindset hacks) control your financial reality ✨ The 5 most common unconscious money scripts I see in coaches, healers & creators ✨ How I went from charging £50/hr to £20,000 clients — without changing my skills ✨ A guided, body-based visualisation to align with the version of you who’s already abundant ✨ A multidimensional reminder that wealth isn’t earned — it’s allowed

You’ll leave this episode clearer, calmer, and more energetically aligned to receive.

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Explore the full Money Manifesting Course or contact me to book a Money Reboot 1-1 Session here

📣 Let me know what shifts for you — message me on Instagram @yourhandle or leave a review.

Reflecting the truth in you,

David Marshall

📚Welcome to the first (of many I hope) interviews with Barrie Gellis. Barry attended classes with Jane Roberts, Robert Butts and Seth and was one of the New York Boys mentioned in The Seth Material. This chat is a general one about how Barrie came to attend Jane Roberts classes and his take on the ideas and present explorations on The Seth Material.

Links and Information about Barrie. Find Barrie's Books Here:

 https://www.amazon.com/stores/Barrie-...

📚 Latest Book: 2ND EDITION Seth Material Q&A: The Spiritual Inner Journey of Self Awareness: Original Seth Class Member Answers Your Questions: Books by Barrie Gellis—Available at Amazon or email me for extra goodies:

📚 -“Seth Material Q&A: The Spiritual Inner Journey of Self-Awareness (2nd Edition): Original Seth Class Member Answers Your Questions” by Barrie Gellis 

📚 - “Outside Is a Secret Key” (100 Collected Poems) by Barrie Gellis 

📚 - “The Young Are Not Take From Us By War…We Throw Them Away” (141 Poems from 2017) by Barrie Gellis

📚 - “Diffused Light Makes Everything Look Like a Bed” (159 Poems from 2021) by Barrie Gellis 📤 Email address: [email protected] (write with any comments or questions)

 👉 This song: 11-21-22 “Walking in the Dark Back of Clearview” (song about the NY Boys)    • Walking in the Dark Back of Clearview  

Barrie has given 33 live and online Seth-related Interviews and Presentations.

Here’s one:

👉 Love, The Seth Material & The Full Secret (Encore presentation from the Global Online Seth Conference, 04-10-19).    • Barrie Gellis Seth Presentation: Love...  

👉 The Only Existing Video of Seth Speaking Through Jane Roberts With Some Additional Goodies    • The Only Existing Video of Seth Speak...  

👉 My Facebook Page: Barrie Gellis’ Seth Group—All Things Seth   / 177996360825  

In this episode we go back to the amazing basics of what the law of attraction is, how it works and how to use the law of attraction to get anything you want relies on understanding the multi-dimensional nature of reality. 

In the vast tapestry of human experience, our spiritual journey stands as one of the most profound and transformative aspects of our lives, it is in fact the whole journey.

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For centuries, we've sought to understand the unseen forces that shape our reality, often turning to external sources for guidance and enlightenment.

However, what if the key to unlocking our spiritual potential lies not in ancient texts or revered gurus, but within ourselves?

This comprehensive guide delves into the often misunderstood realm of psychic insights and their integration into daily spiritual practice.

We'll explore how tapping into your innate psychic abilities revolutionizse your spiritual journey, leading to enhanced self-awareness and more powerful manifestation.

But be warned: this isn't your typical new age fluff.

We're here to challenge preconceptions, dismantle limiting beliefs, and empower you to experience spirituality firsthand, free from the constraints of outdated rituals and dogma.

As we embark on this journey together, remember that true spiritual growth comes from direct experience, not second-hand knowledge.

It's time to move beyond the comfort of crystals, the security of scripted rituals, and the dependence on spiritual intermediaries.

Your psychic potential is a natural part of who you are, not a mystical gift reserved for the chosen few.

Are you ready to reclaim your spiritual birthright and unlock the full spectrum of your inner senses? Listen Now

In this episode I tell you about my experiences and lessons from taking adn exorcism and  a house 'clearing'.  As ever the lessons will come back to the understanding that we create our own reality.  I hope you enjoy the stories and they help you to understand there is no 'bad' or 'evil' energy.

Unlocking Alien Realities

Join host David Marshall for a captivating channeling session with Arron in this episode of the Conscious Creation Academy Podcast. Delve into the enigmatic topic of aliens and their deep connection to our consciousness. Download a copy of my book here The Dream we Call Earth

This exploration challenges traditional views by integrating insights from the Seth Material and the concept of multiple realities, suggesting that what we perceive as 'alien' may actually be various forms of consciousness interacting with our physical reality.

In this special channeling session, Arron helps us see beyond the conventional, revealing how aliens are not merely visitors from distant planets but manifestations of other dimensions and states of consciousness.

Discover a new perspective on existence where reality is not just what we see but a more complex interplay of consciousness across the universe.

Tune in to expand your understanding of the universe, consciousness, and the intricate fabric of reality. Are you ready to explore the limitless rooms of existence and redefine your perception of the 'alien'?

Embark on a journey through "The Nature of Death," a podcast that delves deep into the essence of existence, challenging our perceptions of life's final frontier.

This episode intricately weaves the narratives of life, death, birth, and the boundless realms of consciousness, presenting a compelling discourse that transcends conventional understandings.

Hosted by David Marshall, accompanied by the enigmatic presence of Aaron, his spiritual and psychic guide, this conversation ventures beyond the physical, exploring the metaphysical layers of our reality. They unravel the profound mysteries surrounding our existence, offering listeners a new lens through which to view the cyclical nature of life and the ongoing evolution of the soul.

"Why We Die" invites you to reconsider the significance of our sensory experiences and to embrace a broader, more inclusive view of our place within the cosmos. This podcast is more than just a series of discussions; it's an invitation to a transformative exploration, aimed at those who seek to explore the depths of their being and the infinite possibilities that lie beyond the veil of the physical world.

In this podcast Arron tells us the nature of creativity, it's origins and why it begins outside of physical reality as a spiritual-energetic experience.  Also why embracing this method of creativity will create more abundance and joy in your life.  You can download more spiritual insights here with my book The Dream We Call Earth.  

if you have any questions for me or Arron please email [email protected]