Tom Muller talks about: having a studio visit in which a dealer told him he wasn't properly branded for his type of work; growing up in South Africa, Switzerland, and Seattle; managing time as an artist with a kid; and showing outside of L.A., including Denver and D.C. Deb Klowden Mann co-hosts with Michael Shaw. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.

Charlie White on Larry Clark; his project Casting Call; the image(s) of adolescence, from Dana Plato's Kimberly Drummond to Brooke Shields; on working with institutions instead of galleries; and his willingness to talk about ANYTHING- as long as it's in the objective. With Karl Haendel as guest host. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.

Sharon Louden is a Brooklyn as well as a Minneapolis-based artist behind the much-talked about book, "Living and Sustaining a Creative Life: Essays by 40 Working Artists." She can be followed via @loudenstudio The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ If you would like to help The Conversation's Michael Shaw participate in one of Sharon's upcoming New York Academy of Art lectures, you can help by donating to the show via PayPal thru the podcast's homepage: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated.

Los Angeles-based painter Cole Case talks about his youth as a political cartoonist; his struggles transitioning to become a fine artist; going back to school at 35; and overcoming scathing critiques in finding his voice as an artist...and so much more. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Support the show by donating via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated.

Smilee Barnacle talks about running an art fabrication company--working with clients including Mike Kelly and Alejandro Diaz, growing the business, ungrowing the business...and how he got into via reality show roots. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Support the show by donating via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated.

Max Presneill talks about being a roadie for some big English bands; moving to the States; his evolution as a curator, thru pop-up shows and club nights; doing studio visits in his role as curator/museum director; and his entrance interview for Goldsmiths College that went horribly wrong. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Support the show by donating via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated.

Karl Haendel and co-host Margie Schnibbe discuss Karl's Whitney Biennial experience, the Biennial itself, studio visits, and more. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Support the show by donating via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated.

Sam Fields on airbrushing, Sam's Charm School, and a series of studio visits that launched her career. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Your support of the podcast in one or more of the following ways is very much appreciated: A donation via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast

Dani Tull on... growing up in Hollywood from a multi-generational artist family; going to San Francisco Art Institute; his large-scale project about model homes and commodification of lifestyle; the culture and practice of Ayahuasca; showing with Blum & Poe; and acquiring the only two autographs he's ever cared to get, from two intriguing behemoths of their fields. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Your support of the podcast in one or more of the following ways is very much appreciated: A donation via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast

The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Your support of the podcast in one or more of the following ways is very much appreciated: A donation via PayPal on http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast