Karen Mahon is a strategist, organizer, facilitator, fundraiser, and teacher with more than 25 years in making social change. Early in her career, she led Greenpeace's campaign to protect the old growth rainforest of Clayoquot Sound, now a UN Biosphere Reserve. Karen has been a student and teacher focused on the intersection of the inner spiritual and emotional realms with the outer ecological and social crises. Our conversation visits the edges of death, politics, climate and what it means to be human. We also spend a little time talking about climate hope, Karen’s latest project and retreat at Hollyhock in September.