The head of justice & violence prevention at the Institute for Security Studies, Gareth Newham, spoke on crime patterns and trends in the country while giving his expert view of the violence and proposing solutions.

Renowned political analyst Asanda Ngoasheng analysed the seriousness of politicians in combating the brutality and weighed in on what fruits it will reap in the 2024 elections at the polls. While Ngoasheng acknowledges it is good to point fingers at leadership she says society must also reflect on itself.

The two insightful guests join Sunday Times deputy editor Mike Siluma on this instalment of the podcast in a captivating conversation.

Producer: Bulelani Nonyukela.