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“Today’s kids are so soft.” Jonathan Singer hears it online and from adults, and he thinks it costs them something: when you wave off what a young person is going through, they stop telling you about it.

Jonathan is a professor at Loyola University Chicago’s School of Social Work and a past president of the American Association of Suicidology. He co-authored Suicide in Schools and started The Social Work Podcast in 2007, before most people knew what a podcast was. His interest in suicide prevention began with a high school production of Ordinary People. In this conversation with Dr. Kevin White, he explains why a kid who seems to have everything can still be in real trouble, and what parents and physicians can do about it.

What would change if you believed a young person the first time they told you something was hard? Kevin asks Jonathan what he’d say to a young man who feels lost, and the answer is that struggling after doing everything right means you’re on track. Along the way you’ll hear why tight-knit, high-achieving communities can make it harder for kids to ask for help, what formerly suicidal people said kept them alive (including spite and a video game release), why every primary care practice needs a screening protocol, and the question to ask a young person who has been talking to a chatbot.

“When you’re dismissive of somebody’s experience, they’re not going to want to share with you.”

• Jonathan Singer

If a young person tells you something is hard, it is hard for them. Start there.

Jonathan hosts The Social Work Podcast: https://www.socialworkpodcast.com
The free screener Jonathan recommends, the ASQ: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/ASQ

If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 in the US, or chat at 988lifeline.org.

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Your inbox interrupts you all day. So does your phone. Sachin Patel thinks every one of those interruptions is a free chance to calm your nervous system, and that you can use them without adding a single thing to your schedule.

Sachin is a chiropractor and breathwork facilitator who started in a kiddie pool of ice water with no towels waiting afterward. Almost seven years later he trains other practitioners, speaks at medical conferences, and has written Breathe Balance Burn. In this conversation with Dr. Kevin White, he argues that the ten minutes you spend on breathwork in the morning matter less than how you breathe the rest of the day.

What would your afternoon feel like if you checked your breath every time you checked your email? Kevin asks Sachin for the one breathing habit he’d keep if he could only keep one, and the answer needs no ice and no free hour. Along the way you’ll hear where your tongue should rest, why he wants you breathing through your nose, and what to do the next time someone says something that makes you want to snap back.

“If you check your email, let’s check our breath too.”

• Sachin Patel

Your day already has the reminders built in. This episode gives each one a job.

Sachin is leading a breathwork retreat in Costa Rica from April 4 to 10, 2027. Free guided sessions and tools are at breathworkwithsachin.com, and you can find him on Facebook.

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Most people want anxiety gone. Suzanne Ferree, MD, says it showed up to protect you from something, and that taking it away is where the real work starts.

Dr. Ferree runs Vine Medical in Roswell, Georgia, and was using peptides before most doctors had heard of them. Dr. Kevin White sits down with her to talk about neural therapy, a century-old technique that uses small injections of a numbing agent to shut off the nerve signals keeping the body on alert. Her view is that a lot of chronic illness comes from a body stuck in fight or flight, with the calm, recovery side of the nervous system never getting a turn.

They get into how an old scar or a hidden infection in a tooth can keep the alarm ringing, and a patient whose high blood pressure cleared up once an infected root canal was treated. Ferree tells the story of a woman in her sixties with agoraphobia who hadn’t driven herself anywhere in 15 years and was behind the wheel after about three treatments. She also covers what a visit looks like, why she asks patients to commit to at least three weekly sessions (PTSD can take up to 18), why she stays with patients for a conversation afterward, the patient who didn’t respond to four treatments, and who shouldn’t have it: pregnant patients and people with active cancer.

“How am I supposed to be if I’m not anxious?”
 - Patients, as relayed by Suzanne J. Ferree, MD

If you’ve lived on high alert for years, this conversation shows what can happen when the alarm finally lets go.

Ferree teaches neural therapy to other providers every quarter, and her book on the method, The Reset Method, is slated for March. Find her on Instagram at @SuzanneFerreeMD.

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The prestige in fitness runs toward the elite. The math runs the other way.

Peter Park has trained Lance Armstrong, Justin Verlander, Kelly Slater, and numerous pro athletes.  A pro, he says, arrives already near the ceiling, so a great year of coaching moves them a few percent. A 60-year-old who hasn't trained since the nineties is nowhere near it, and that same year decides how the rest of his life goes.

Dr. Kevin White sits down with Peter to talk about why the work is smaller than people expect, why he won't train anyone at their house, the 12-year-olds asking him about peptides, and the snail tattoo he got at 61.

"I get a pro athlete, I can change like ten percent. I get someone older, I can change their whole life."
                                         - Peter Park

Learn more about Peter Park at Platinum Fitness Summerland, platinumfitnesssummerland.com. He co-authored the movement work Foundation Training with Dr. Eric Goodman.

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Most people treat a clean lab report as a verdict. Nothing flagged, nothing to do.

Brian Kennedy has spent three decades explaining why that reading is generous. He trained at MIT, led the Buck Institute for Research on Aging, and now directs the Centre for Healthy Longevity at the National University of Singapore. His view is that medicine learned to define disease and never got around to defining health, so the ranges on your lab report mark the minimum that keeps you alive and the maximum that doesn't kill you. Everything in between gets called normal.

Dr. Kevin White sits down with Brian to talk about what belongs in that space. Kennedy's team went looking for the people who are aging unusually well and found their numbers cluster in a far tighter band than the one your lab prints. He is 59, has nothing on his chart, and treats his own numbers anyway.

They also get into why waiting for a diagnosis is a bad trade, what he takes and why, and what his lab found when it bought 16 supplement brands and measured what was actually in the bottles.

"If somebody says they can tell you exactly what to do to make you 10 years younger, they're lying to you or they're lying to themselves." 

                                     - Brian Kennedy

If you've ever been handed a normal lab report and wondered what it actually bought you, this conversation gives you something better to aim at.

Learn more about Brian Kennedy's research at medicine.nus.edu.sg/sites/briankennedylab, find Rejuvant at rejuvant.com, and look up his longevity solutions company, Live Beyond.

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A 27 year old woman went to a longevity clinic in the Bronx for an NAD IV drip. Minutes later she was in cardiac arrest. She died a few hours after that. The person who ran the clinic held a medical license from the Dominican Republic, not the United States.

Dr. Kevin White talks with Dr. Matt Kaeberlein, a researcher who studies why and how we age, about what that story actually tells us. His answer isn't really about NAD. It's about certainty. Kaeberlein has never seen evidence that NAD infusions help anyone, and the field's founding claim, that NAD declines with age and needs replacing, is now being questioned by the same scientists who study it. Clinics keep selling it with total confidence anyway.

That same pattern shows up everywhere they go in this conversation. Kaeberlein now chairs Montana's expanded Right To Try review board, which lets biotech companies test experimental therapies on real patients once they clear a phase one safety bar, outside the usual FDA process. He explains why that could produce safety data the field has never had, and why he'd reject any therapy pitched without a real scientific rationale behind it, no matter how confidently it's sold.

"You don't want to listen to the people who are telling you with a hundred percent certainty, do this. And by the way, you know, buy my longevity latte."
                                                    — Matt Kaeberlein

They also compare LinAge2, a biological age calculator built from standard bloodwork with decades of mortality data behind it, to the consumer epigenetic age tests sold directly to the public. Kaeberlein's problem with the popular tests has nothing to do with the underlying science. It's that nobody selling them will publish the error bars, so a 20 year gap on your result could mean everything or nothing. You can't run statistics on a number you're not allowed to check.

Along the way they cover why rapamycin, the drug most associated with Kaeberlein's name, might not even be his top pick anymore. A company spun out of his lab, Aura Biomedical, has found longevity molecules that also protect against radiation damage. And a new epigenetic instability test from Irena Conboy's company, Generation Lab, measures something closer to biological chaos than biological age.

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In this episode, Dr. Kevin White sits down with Dr. Veronica Galvan, Presidential Professor at the University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center and Director of the Oklahoma Nathan Shock Center on Aging.

Most people think Alzheimer's is caused by a buildup of "bad" proteins in the brain. The real story is more complicated, and more hopeful. Galvan has spent her career studying what actually drives Alzheimer's disease, and her research has uncovered something surprising: a common, decades-old drug may be able to reverse brain damage that was thought to be permanent.

Together they explore:

• What's really happening in the brain during Alzheimer's, and why the "bad protein" explanation is incomplete
• Why aging itself, not genetics, is the single biggest risk factor for Alzheimer's disease
• What your APOE gene type (2, 3, or 4) actually means for your risk
• How rapamycin, a drug originally used for organ transplants, reversed brain damage in animal studies
  • "It wasn't improving. It was restoring." — Dr. Veronica Galvan
• Why some people's brains show significant Alzheimer's damage on scans but never lose their memory or function
• The simplest, most overlooked factor that can change your brain's trajectory as you age

Along the way, Galvan shares what pulled her from virology into Alzheimer's research, why she believes large-scale human trials on rapamycin are long overdue, and what she'd study next if funding were no object.

Whether you have a family history of dementia, want to understand the research behind the headlines, or are simply thinking ahead about how to protect your brain, this episode offers a clearer picture of where the science actually stands.

Guest
 Dr. Veronica Galvan
 Presidential Professor, University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
 Director, Oklahoma Nathan Shock Center on Aging

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Most people don't lose their health overnight. They lose it one movement, one habit, and one missed opportunity at a time.

In this episode, Dr. Kevin White sits down with physical therapist Andie Emmett, PT, DPT, whose one-on-one approach to movement, strength, and recovery has made her one of Oklahoma's most sought-after physical therapists.

This isn't just a conversation about pain.

It's about building a body that stays strong, capable, and resilient for decades.

Together they explore:

• Why strength and stability matter more than you think
• The hidden movement patterns behind chronic pain
• Why weak glutes can lead to back problems
• How to protect your shoulders before injuries happen
• The importance of resistance training after 40
• Walking, CrossFit, Hyrox, and training intelligently
• What separates people who thrive in their 70s and 80s from those who don't

Along the way, Andie shares why she left the traditional high-volume healthcare model to create a practice centered around something increasingly rare: time, attention, and truly personalized care.

Whether you're recovering from an injury, trying to perform at a higher level, or simply want to age with strength and independence, this episode offers practical insights you can start using today.

Guest
Andie Emmett, PT, DPT
Whole Wellness
Nichols Hills Plaza
Oklahoma City

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Most people worried about microplastics are focused on the wrong things.

The receipts, the water bottles, the plastic cutting boards. Dr. Matt Campen has spent his career actually measuring what ends up in the human body, and the picture that's emerging looks a lot less like a consumer choice problem and a lot more like a food system problem.

Dr. Kevin White sits down with Dr. Campen, a toxicologist and environmental health researcher at the University of New Mexico, to talk through what the science actually shows: where microplastics accumulate in the body, why the brain appears to hold more than any other organ, what his lab found when comparing plastic concentrations in healthy brains versus those with dementia, and why the biggest exposure vector isn't your water bottle. It's processed food, irrigated by groundwater running through plastic-contaminated agricultural fields.

They also get into wildfire smoke as a largely overlooked driver of neuroinflammation, and why the recovery window is longer than most people realize.

"I worry that the United States may end up being sentinels for the rest of the planet on what the health effects of microplastics are."

This isn't a conversation about panic or dismissal. It's an honest look at where the science actually is, what it means for brain health and longevity, and why solving this one is going to take more than switching to a stainless steel bottle.

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The fitness industry makes money when you fail. Troy Taylor spent 20 years at the top of Olympic sport, and now he's the reason Tonal keeps 99% of its members while the rest of the industry churns through them like a revolving door.

He and Kevin don't talk about motivation. They talk about why motivation is the wrong thing to chase, what the actual data says about how people build a training habit that sticks, and why everything you've been told about starting a fitness program is probably backwards.

"It doesn't matter whether you start high or low. What mattered was a little more in week two, a little more in week three, a little more in week four."

Troy worked with Mikaela Shiffrin and Lindsey Vonn. The thing that made them exceptional? They showed up more than everyone else and worked on the things they were bad at. That's it. No secret sauce.

The same principle wrecks most people's January gym resolution, and the data proves it.

This one covers the behavioral science behind exercise adherence, why your first week should be embarrassingly easy, how an hour a week of lifting might be all you need, and what a VP of Performance Innovation actually does when he has 10 minutes and a deadline.

Find Troy at @StrengthScienceTroy on Instagram and learn more about Tonal at tonal.com.

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