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Angela and Brad sit down with Jeff, beginning a candid, former-to-former conversation about vulnerability, feelings, realizations, and breaking free from the violent far-right. Jeff's childhood, upbringing, and early family life are typical, without extremes or many of the things we usually associate with becoming radicalized. Jeff shares his less-than-common experience of seeking out the violent far-right on his own as a teenager, beginning a long stint–nearly three decades–of involvement in one of the most blistering neo-Natzy groups around. The formers share hard-earned wisdom, experiences, and the realities they wish others knew. You don’t want to miss the illuminating conversation had in part one, episode 2 of The Daily Former.


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We welcome Frank, a former skinhead whose journey from hate to healing is both intense and inspiring. Raised in a tough environment in South Philadelphia, Frank was drawn into the skinhead movement at a young age. His transformation out of hate began while in prison, where he was exposed to diverse backgrounds and began questioning his racist beliefs. The turning point came after the Oklahoma City bombing, leading him to leave the movement and commit to anti-racism. Now an advocate for the Black Lives Matter movement and exploring his Jewish heritage, Frank shares his powerful story of redemption and his ongoing work to fight hate. Tune in to hear how his past has shaped his mission to create a more inclusive world.

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2017's Shot Caller isn't the most obvious pick for a season finale but, we've shown many different stories and how violent extremism's insidious nature can infect anyone. Clint joins the conversation and pretty much sends us to school about gangs, prison politics, the nature of copaganda, and shared some strong opinions about Jon Bernthal(that we kindly edited out... mostly). Enjoy!

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American History X is loved and hated by many people- some think it's too sappy, others think it's too brutal. But what do people who actually lived that life think? Join the Formers as we pick Frank Meeink's brain about what it's like to "allegedly" inspire such a critical film.

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1988's Mississippi Burning is discussed. 


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Jojo Rabbit is discussed.

CW: This episode contains discussion of death, wartime violence, murder, life is squalor, among other things. Feel free to pass on this!


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CW: This film depicts scenes of racial violence, medical emergencies, questionable sexual scenarios, racist language, bad ideas, unaliving, etc. Please feel free to skip this!

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CW: This series deals with dark themes, including, cult-like behavior, racial violence, sexual violence, substance abuse, trauma, early death, loss of at least one parent, etc. Please feel free to skip this if you are not in a good place to hear discussions about these things.

2007's This Is England is discussed.

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The film Imperium, starring Daniel Radcliffe, is discussed.

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FROM OUR LOVELY INTERN: The Zone of Interest, directed by Jonathan Glazer and based on Martin Amis’s novel, explores extremism within Nazi Germany during the Holocaust. The film examines the lives of Rudolf Höss and his family, depicting them as ordinary people deeply entrenched in Nazi ideology. By contrasting their mundane domestic life with the horrors of Auschwitz, the film highlights how extremist views became normalized. Its minimalistic cinematography and understated soundtrack evoke a sense of detachment, reflecting the moral apathy that allowed such atrocities to occur. The film avoids passing judgment, instead challenging viewers to confront the ethical complexities of complicity. Overall, The Zone of Interest is a thought-provoking exploration of moral responsibility and the normalization of evil, urging introspection on the dangers of ideological extremism.

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