Pip pip! Maureen is in England, trying to enjoy life for a second. But Dan is lurking, and he has notes. He was been following the news. Maureen cannot hide in butterflies and sunshine and tea. There are Events to Process. There's no running away.

So what has been happening? Well, Trump is turning up the racism, which is not news--it's just turning everything up to eleven. But racism. So much. Things are rolling downhill faster and faster.

Maureen is desperate. She'll talk about anything but the news. Anything. Literally anything.

Things go downhill. But we go downhill together. It's time to roll, SaysWhovia. Down the hill. Here we go.

SHOW NOTES

Dan's back on the road this summer, so Season Two of The Hitch is OUT NOW. Weekly episode drop on Mondays!

Maureen's new book The Vanishing Stair is OUT NOW. NOW!

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