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  • Episode 291: Dreams Do Come True: Stan Visits WOTC, Modern is Healing

    What a long strange trip it's been... from Chicago to Seattle! On this week's show, Stan shares stories and highlights from his visit to Wizards of the Coast headquarters. Then we look at the first batch of Modern results since the Nadu ban, and breath a sigh of relief at a format finding its footing.

    The Break Down: The Sights and Sounds of Renton, WA

    The Dive Down: Energy Looks Good, Modern Looks Better

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    • Timestamps:

      5:13 - Heavy Play is better than Mountain Dewmwake
      7:13 - This week's show/housekeeping
      12:25 - The Break Down begins: Stan went to WOTC!
      41:40 - Stan interviews Blake Rasmussen
      51:45 - Stan interviews Aaron Forsythe, Mike Turian, and Carmen Klomparens
      1:04:14 - The Dive Down begins: Post-ban Modern
      1:23:29 - Dave played Hollow One
      1:34:47 - Devon played Naya Energy
      1:48:34 - Wrapping up

      Links from this week's episode:

      Samalia Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6612111#paper
      Devon's Naya Energy: https://x.com/d00mwake/status/1830402879229755474

      Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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      1 hr 52 min
    • Episode 290: Grief is Banned. Joy is Allowed.

      This week we talk about... what else? With multiple cards banned in Pioneer and Modern — and a few cards left suspiciously untouched — we talk through what happened, how we feel about it, and what we think will happen next.

      • It Finally Happened

      • Sorin and Amalia Go in Pioneer
      • Nadu and Grief (?) Go in Modern

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      • Timestamps:

        6:09 - Heavy Play will not file an injunction against you
        8:08 - This week's show/housekeeping
        11:14 - The Break Down begins: Bans in Pioneer
        13:56 - Amalia is banned
        21:45 - Sorin is banned
        26:35 - What wasn't banned?
        37:06 - Bans in Modern!
        47:50 - Should Commander impact Modern?
        56:20 - Why was Nadu banned?
        1:14:20 - The One Ring - not banned!
        1:28:40 - Changes to the B&R schedule
        1:33:58 - Wrapping up

        Links from this week's episode:

        WOTC's B&R Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement
        Michael Majors's Article: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/on-banning-nadu-winged-wisdom-in-modern

        Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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        1 hr 35 min
      • Episode 289: Breached Eldrazi and Lizards, Wizards

        Despite Stan getting Nadu's out of a Modern RCQ, he brushed off the dust and went back to MTGO for some Rakdos Lizards in Standard. Then Shane casts Through the Breach to cheat some Eldrazi into play, and Dave revisits a few Modern Wizards in an updated Izzet shell.

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        • Timestamps:

          7:24 - Heavy Play enhances your natural abilities
          9:28 - This week's show/housekeeping
          14:27 - The Break Down begins: Stan played an RCQ
          21:04 - More data from Anaël Yahi
          23:35 - The Dive Down begins: Stan played Rakdos Lizards in Standard
          44:00 - Shane played Through the Breach in Modern
          1:08:30 - Dave played Izzet... stuff in Modern
          1:19:40 - Wrapping up

          Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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          1 hr 22 min
        • Episode 288: Scoop Less, Mull More, Remember Cards That Were Good Before

          On this week's show, we marvel at the return of Through the Breach in MTGO Modern events, followed by a couple level up topics about scooping and mulligans. Then Lee McLeod drops buy to educate us about some Nadu Loops, and we wrap with a walk down memory lane via Dave's box of former playables.

          The Break Down: Return of Through the Breach?

          The Dive Down: Conceding? Mulliganning?
          The Dive Down cont.: Nadu Looping with Lee McLoud!
          The Wind Down: Dave's Box of Secrets

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          • Timestamps:

            6:44 - Heavy Play is not sold at Mars Cheese Castle
            7:55 - This week's show/housekeeping
            12:55 - The Break Down begins: Some more weekend challenges
            23:05 - The return of Through The Breach?
            29:05 - Cool Decks, Inc
            37:59 - The Dive Down begins: Should you concede more or less?
            54:45 - Why concede less?
            1:02:10 - Mulliganning, briefly
            1:06:11 - Learning loops with Lee (McLeod)
            1:34:00 - The Wind Down begins: Would you like to play a game?
            1:46:49 - Wrapping up

            Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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            1 hr 49 min
          • Episode 287: Modern Since MH3 & First Bloomburrow Tests

            This week it's a bit of a grab bag — or bags? Or grabs bag? One is the state of Modern since MH3, the other is our first tests with Bloomburrow in Modern and Pioneer. We take a dive through several recent challenges and a whole mess of concerning stats from frequently cited Modern watcher, Anaël Yahi. After that, we take a look at a few Bloomburrow cards in Modern and Pioneer — does Thundertrap Trainer slap? Is Rottenmouth Viper the truth... in Pioneer? We talk about all this and more.

            • Anaël Drops Another Banger

            • Mocked by Bird
            • Only a Snake Can Kill Another Snake

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            • Timestamps:

              3:51 - Heavy Play is as good as quick pickles
              5:52 - This week's show/housekeeping
              11:01 - The Break Down begins: The current state of Modern
              18:29 - The Modern Super Qualifier
              27:40 - MH3-era paper data breakdown
              41:55 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow in Modern
              42:34 - Mockingbird
              49:17 - Thundertrap Trainer
              55:55 - Innkeeper's Talent
              1:02:22 - Helga, Skittish Seer/Feed the Cycle
              1:10:14 - d00m loves Rottenmouth Viper in Pioneer
              1:26:29 - Wrapping up

              Links from this week's episode:

              Anaël Yahi's Metrics Tweet: https://x.com/AnaelYahi/status/1820337686982369522
              D00mwake's Boros Energy List (Modern): https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/modern-challenge-64-2024-08-0312666568?player=D00mwake#deck_D00mwake
              Izzet by SvenSveeterSven (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6550302#paper
              Mono Green Scales (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6553561#paper
              Omnath + Helga by DackFayden (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6556724#paper
              D00m's Dimir Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9nyVhbjTEUW28T2w-JHHEw
              D00m's Golgari Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/6M6aAGQTNEiUXsJWUaorOA
              D00m's Rakdos Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Eki38qUUfkaIB9aqTYDwoQ

              Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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              1 hr 29 min
            • Episode 286: Diving Into Modern Boros Energy, ft. YungDingo

              Modern Boros Energy has quickly emerged as a Tier 1 Modern deck despite the ongoing menace of Nadu taking over tournaments left and right. On this week's show, The Dive Down is joined by YungDingo to break down how the deck functions, how to sequence its various 1-drops, and the benefits of splashing into black for Mardu Energy.

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              • Timestamps:

                2:56 - A Dingo ate my Heavy Play
                4:40 - This week's episode/housekeeping
                8:55 - The Dive Down begins: A wild Dingo appears!
                17:28 - Inside the Grinder's Studio
                21:52 - What is Boros Energy all about?
                26:20 - The 1-drops
                36:52 - The 2-drops
                51:30 - The 3-drops
                1:08:45 - Interaction
                1:13:40 - The Energy economy
                1:17:42 - The matchups
                1:26:56 - The future of Boros Energy
                1:31:01 - Bye, Dingo!

                Links from this week's episode:

                twitch.tv/yungdingo
                x.com/yungdingomtg
                https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6540163#paper

                Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                1 hr 36 min
              • Episode 285: The (Rhino) Boyz Are Back in Town & Bloomburrow End

                Someone finally did it... Crashing Footfalls has revealed its beautiful face again in a post-MH3 Modern tournament, so D00mwake and Stan had to try the deck out themselves. Then we share our favorite picks from Bloomburrow in the final week of spoilers for the upcoming set.

                The Break Down: Stan and Devon talk about the same deck again.

                The Dive Down: Dave talks about the same cards again. Shane has the same doubts again.

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                • Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com
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                • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/
                • Timestamps:

                  6:00 - Heavy Play, not a camarone
                  7:10 - This week's show/housekeeping
                  11:01 - The Break Down begins: The rhinos are back in town
                  43:44 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow spoilers, part 2
                  44:26 - The Infamous Cruelclaw (revisited)/Sunspine Lynx
                  49:53 - Osteomancer Adept
                  52:36 - Lumra, Bellow of the Woods
                  55:04 - Beza, the Bounding Spring (revisited)/Dourport Mage
                  1:00:37 - Huskburster Swarm
                  1:03:13 - Fountainport
                  1:05:21 - Jackdaw Savior
                  1:09:34 - Vinereap Mentor
                  1:11:10 - Ygra, Eater of All
                  1:15:25 - Darkstar Auger
                  1:17:54 - Stormsplitter
                  1:20:22 - Valley Mightcaller
                  1:21:14 - Keen-Eyed Curator
                  1:25:28 - Thundertrap Trainer
                  1:27:30 - Our picks to click
                  1:35:16 - Wrapping up

                  Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                  1 hr 38 min
                • Episode 284: Nadu Soars at NRG & Seasons of Bloomburrow, pt. 1

                  Oh look, another Modern tournament dominated by Nadu decks! On this week's show, we break down the results from NRG Chicago, which included a Modern 10K and some cheeky side events featuring the rhino boys. Then we dive into our Bloomburrow spoilers.

                  • No Surprises, All Alarms

                  • Higher Highs for Nadu
                  • The Cutest Little Cards Ever

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                  • Timestamps:

                    3:08 - Heavy Play is anything but bland
                    5:13 - This week's show/housekeeping
                    9:51 - The Break Down begins: NRG Chicagoland
                    26:20 - The MTGO Modern Super Qualifier
                    35:21 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow Spoilers begin!
                    41:42 - Hidden Grotto
                    42:51 - Three Tree City
                    46:28 - Heartfire Hero
                    49:10 - Into the Floodmaw
                    52:13 - Iridescent Vinelasher
                    53:46 - Might of the Meek
                    55:41 - Valley Mightcaller
                    56:51 - Mistbreath Elder
                    59:49 - Emberheart Challenger
                    1:02:20 - Kitsa, Otterball Elite
                    1:06:37 - Brazen Collector/Coruscation Mage
                    1:09:33 - Artist's Talent
                    1:11:32 - Dawn's Truth
                    1:13:13 - Dewdrop Cure
                    1:15:33 - Pearl of Wisdom
                    1:16:17 - Rottenmouth Viper
                    1:18:17 - Huskburster Swarm
                    1:20:54 - Ral, Crackling Wit
                    1:22:43 - Maha, Its Feathers Night
                    1:25:00 - The Season Cycle
                    1:27:38 - Mockingbird
                    1:29:40 - The Infamous Cruelclaw
                    1:31:56 - Beza, The Bounding Spring
                    1:35:16 - Wrapping up

                    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                    1 hr 38 min
                  • Episode 283: Return of the MTGO Decklists & MH3 Sideboard Stonks

                    We couldn't get through an episode without mentioning the lack of a Nadu ban, but quickly dive into the huge batch of MTGO data that was finally unlocked after several weeks of downtime. Then we recap some of our favorite sideboard cards in the current Modern Metagame, and announce latest love of Basim Ibn Ishaq and Ocelot Pride.

                    We kick off the show by asking the difficult question, "What is WOTC waiting for?" Then we dive into a ton of MTGO data, which finally came back this week with decks from Leagues, Challenges, and Last Chance qualifiers. We review the most successul decks and admire some of the coolest outliers.

                    Then we rundown some of the biggest sideboard cards to make a splash after MH3 and the decks they attack most.

                    The Break Down: What are they waiting for?

                    The Break Down, cont.: New Pivot Tables Unlocked
                    The Dive Down: How to Sideboard for MH3

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                    • Timestamps:

                      6:00 - Heavy Play will not remove your fingers
                      9:24 - This week's episode/housekeeping
                      14:32 - The Break Down begins: Nadu's still here
                      22:10 - Decklists are back, and we broke them down
                      30:17 - MH3 has dramatically changed Modern - is this good?
                      47:55 - Some new decks on the Modern scene
                      1:11:28 - The Dive Down begins: New meta, new sideboards
                      1:31:39 - Winding down

                      Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                      1 hr 35 min
                    • Episode 282: The Bird in the Room: PT MH3/Amsterdam Breakdown

                      PT Amsterdam was last week and Modern will never be the same. This week Dave, Devon, and Stan talk about the huge impact MH3 cards had on the tournament — and, of course, spend a ton of time speculating about what's going to happen with Nadu. Bans? Errata? Only Fly Away? We'll see, but we mostly bet it won't happen until about 6 weeks from now (sorry).

                      Devon shares what he thinks the next best deck will be. Stan gets energetic about his RCQ deck choice. Dave is torn between two ways to gain card advantage.

                      • 25.5% Nah Dude

                      • Anyone Have a Line on Cheap Soul Spikes?
                      • Is The One Ring The Real Problem?

                      Timecodes:

                      2:30: Introduction
                      5:53: We Love Heavy Play
                      7:38: Housekeeping
                      9:35: PT Amsterdam Day 1 Metagame
                      15:10: Winrates, etc., starting with Nadu
                      17:01: Sideboard Cards (RIP Storm)
                      21:55: The Next Decks: Jeskai Energy Control and Necrodominance
                      31:31: 10-0 Lists (Bant Nadu, Necro, Esper Goryo's)
                      35:49: Boros Energy
                      43:18: Domain Zoo
                      45:10: Mono Black Grief
                      47:03: Underperformers (Storm, Merfolk)
                      52:48: Focus on Nadu
                      53:06: Eldrazi Winter and Hogaak
                      1:01:16: We Said the B Word — Time to Ban Nadu
                      1:09:38: What About The One Ring?
                      1:18:10: What We're Doing During the Nadu Era
                      1:20:30: Signoff

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                        1 hr 23 min

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                      The Dive Down is a weekly podcast for people who love Magic: The Gathering but like talking about other things too. From videogames, to parenting, to 3D printing, and beyond. Each week hosts Dave,…

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