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  • Episode 281: A New Modern Emerges: Tournament Results, PT Predictions, and More Decks

    On this week's show, we take a look at the results from Modern's first big paper tournaments since the release of MH3. We chat about NRG St. Louis, MXP Tacoma, our predictions for PT Amsterdam, Stan's experiences playing Bant Nadu, Devon's experiments with Kappa Cannoneer, and Dave (and Devon's) explorations of Energy Prowess.

    The Break Down: Paper Modern Shows its Colors

    The Dive Down: Nadu, Kappa, and Mutagenic Growth

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    • Timestamps:

      5:41 - Heavy Play time
      7:00 - This week's show/housekeeping
      10:22 - The Break Down begins: the NRG St. Louis Modern event
      19:12 - The MXP Tacoma Modern event
      24:55 - What does the PT metagame potentially look like?
      48:31 - The Dive Down begins: What's the deal with these new cards?
      49:57 - Stan Nadu'd so you Nadon't have to
      1:03:30 - Devon loves Kappa Cannoneer
      1:11:15 - Dave (and Devon) played Energy Prowess
      1:23:20 - We mention a single Assassin's Creed card
      1:26:00 - Wrapping up

      Links from this week's episode:

      https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/52904
      https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/79404
      https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6464281#paper
      https://www.moxfield.com/decks/6oV78FnDbkCjyWt3OEVKRg
      https://www.moxfield.com/decks/mhmc1tqudk23WRA4yUUhew

      Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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      1 hr 30 min
    • Episode 280: Sleeve/Believe/Heave MH3 Edition: Boros Energy, Eldrazi Prison & Ruby Storm

      It's time to rev up those rental accounts because new cards are on the horizon. On this week's show, Shane and Stan (aka The Cool S Bros) share their war stories of leaguing with Modern Horizon 3 decks. Stan fires up some Boros Energy and Ruby Storm, while Shane locks his opponents out with Eldrazi Prison.

      We kick off the show with a high level check-in on format diversity in the weeks following MH3's release. Then we chat about the one-two punch of Guide of Souls and Ajani, flexible applications for Kozilek's Command, and Storming off against The One Ring decks.

      The Break Down: MH3 Week 2

      The Dive Down: Sleeve, Believe, Heaving new decks in Modern

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      • Timestamps:

        7:12 - Heavy Play is lovely
        8:51 - This week's show/housekeeping
        14:54 - The Break Down begins: The new top tier of Modern?
        25:10 - The Dive Down begins: Stan played Boros Energy
        50:52 - Shane played Eldrazi Prison Tron
        1:19:18 - Stan played Ruby Storm
        1:33:16 - Wrapping up

        Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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        1 hr 36 min
      • Episode 279: MH3: New Decks, First Impressions

        Welcome to the new Horizon of Modern. That long awaited day is finally here — Horizons 3 has launched and is in the hands of anyone who wants to: 1) use a Bird Wizard to draw their whole deck, 2) Break a line with a bowl of spaghet monsters, 3) Pay life to draw cards, then DIE, and 4) explore an potentially incredible new format.

        This week Dave and Devon talk through early impressions of decks we're seeing, things we've tested, early results from an MH3-inclusive 5k in Las Vegas and more. Tune in for the Nadu, stay for the Unstable Amulet. It's another week on The Dive Down!

        • Nadu

        • Eldrazi
        • And All the Rest of the Cards

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        • Timestamps:

          3:20 — Heavy Play Means Business
          7:40 — Housekeeping
          9:30 — The only place we can start: Nadu
          27:15 — Big Eldrazi (Tron)
          33:40 — Lil 'Drazi (Aggro)
          42:00 — Affinity
          43:55 — Ruby Storm
          52:05 — Energy Decks (Boros, R Prowess, 4c Control)
          56:40 — Mono Black Griefs, Scam (Necrodominance and more)
          1:07:02 — Buried Alive/Phoenix
          1:09:38 — Stuff We Haven't Seen (Flare of Cultivation, Shifting Woodlands)
          1:13:03 — What We've Excited for Next
          1:16:01 — What About Old Modern?
          1:17:19 — Outro

          Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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          1 hr 20 min
        • Episode 278: MH3 Full Set Review, Part 2: The Rest of the Cards

          It took another couple hours but we finally made it through the complete MH3 spoiler (even after skipping a ton of limited fodder). We wrap up our set review with the gold cards along with the new to Modern reprints, and cap it off with some of our favorite cards in the set and a few called shots about cards to watch.

          • We at least mention every card by name so YOU KNOW if we don't think a card is good enough to see play.

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          • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

          • Timestamps:

            4:26 - Heavy Play: likely better than Dark Knight Rises
            5:36 - This week's episode/housekeeping
            9:29 - Multicolored
            35:12 - Artifacts
            46:50 - Lands
            1:04:25 - Dual-Faced cards
            1:28:26 - Reprints
            1:57:18 - Our MH3 awards
            2:10:12 - Our final takes on MH3
            2:20:55 - Wrapping up

            Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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            2 hr 24 min
          • Episode 277: MH3 Full Set Review, Part 1: Colorless & WUBRG

            It's finally here! The Modern Horizons 3 spoiler is complete — and wow do we have a lot to talk about. Join us this week as Dave, Devon, and Shane talk through every card * in the set from Colorless and WUBRG. We debate which new Eldrazi titan is best, how much energy you need to feel paid off, some pet cards that we wish we good, and more! Lots more because we're talking about every card *.

            • We at least mention every card by name so YOU KNOW if we don't think a card is good enough to see play.

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            • Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store

            • Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com

            • Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_43A

            • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

            • Timestamps:

              3:17 - Heavy Play is nothing to be apprehensive about
              5:01 - This week's show/housekeeping
              9:08 - The Dive Down: It's Modern Horizons 3 set review time!
              10:10 - Colorless
              23:29 - White
              45:30 - Blue
              1:10:05 - Black
              1:32:42 - Red
              1:50:53 - Green
              2:07:05 - Wrapping up

              Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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              2 hr 10 min
            • Episode 276: These MH3 Spoilers Are Making Me Thirsty

              The time has finally come for the sea change that is Modern Horizons 3. We dissect the first batch of official spoilers from Tuesday, and revisit some of our most embarrassing evaluations from MH2 spoiler season all those moons ago.

              We chat about Phlage, the Eldrazi Titans, the Flares and Medallions, new toys for Storm, and lots more!

              The Dive Down: The MH3 Spoiler Season We Always Wanted

              The Wind Down: The MH2 Spoiler Season We Hoped to Forget

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              • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/
              • Timestamps:

                7:10 - Heavy Play can hold MH3 cards
                9:08 - Housekeeping/this week's episode
                12:37 - The Dive Down begins: MH3 spoilers begin!
                15:26 - Stan's Polygon spoiler: Phlage, Titan of Fire's Fury
                24:17 - Amped Raptor
                28:00 - Devourer of Destiny
                30:51 - Ulamog the Defiler
                35:49 - Breaker of Creation
                36:39 - Ugin's Labyrinth
                39:52 - Thief of Existence
                41:51 - Basking Broodscale
                44:36 - Kozilek, the Broken Reality
                49:00 - Flare of Fortitude (and other Flares)
                54:09 - Flare of Duplication
                55:11 - The Medallions
                59:16 - Ral, Monsoon Mage
                1:03:07 - Tamiyo, Inquisitive Student
                1:05:06 - Harbinger of the Seas
                1:09:58 - Orim's Chant
                1:11:19 - Powerbalance
                1:12:54 - Double-faced lands
                1:14:54 - Eladamri, Korvecdal
                1:19:01 - Our worst takes from the MH2 spoiler season
                1:30:13 - Wrapping up

                Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                1 hr 33 min
              • Episode 275: One Last Modern Tournament Before Everything Changes

                On this week's show, the four amigos break down the results of the Modern Open at NRG Indianapolis, the last big paper Modern tournament before MH3 changes everything (presumably). Plus, D00mwake joins the dark side and started playing Phoenix. And Stan tries some new cards in Ensoul, plus a bunch of OJT drafts.

                The Break Down: The Motor City is a Real Zoo Meta

                The Dive Down: Be the Bad Guy, Play Phoenix
                The Dive Down cont.: Stan Likes OTJ

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                • Timestamps:

                  6:56 - Heavy Play is our favorite co-host
                  8:25 - Goodbye, Tanner!
                  12:23 - This week's show/housekeeping
                  17:15 - NRG Indy's Modern $10K
                  46:15 - Cool decks grab bag - d00m on Izzet Phoenix
                  56:36 - Stan played some new cards in Ensoul
                  1:08:20 - Talking about Freestrider Lookout
                  1:13:45 - Stan loves OTJ draft
                  1:25:40 - Wrapping up

                  Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                  1 hr 28 min
                • Episode 274: Goyf Are So Back: Modern Challenges, Gruul Aggro (Prowess), & More

                  After a brief intro, Stan is forced to drop out of the ep leaving Shane and Dave in the hot seat. First, they examine last weekend's 4 Modern Challenges in search of ideas, inspiration, and surprises. Do you know what the highest frequency deck was in all these Challenges? How about the one most likely to convert to an X-2 or better record? After all the event talk, the team goes deep into Andrea Mengucci's Gruul Prowess list from the weekend and welcome the return of the real king — Tarmogoyf.

                  • Shane & Dave Take Over

                  • A Few Surprising Challenges
                  • More Talk About Tarmogoyf

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                  • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/
                  • Timestamps:

                    1:55 - Stanley Cups x Heavy Play
                    5:33 - This week's show/housekeeping
                    9:49 - The current Modern Challenge metagame
                    34:48 - Gruul Prowess in Modern
                    51:25 - Is Abundant Harvest good?
                    54:22 - Is Questing Druid good?
                    58:26 - More on Gruul Prowess
                    1:11:52 - Briefly talking MH3 spoilers
                    1:18:37 - Turn it off if you want: some Survivor chat
                    1:24:50 - Wrapping up

                    Links from this week's episode:

                    Bamzing's Challenge Posts:
                    Saturday: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/1ckv7pz/saturday_modern_challenges_results_may_4_2024/
                    Sunday: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/1cllxrd/sunday_modern_challenges_results_may_5_2024/
                    Mengu's Prowess List: https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1786721343523704991

                    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                    1 hr 27 min
                  • Episode 273: High Res MH3 Spoilers & A Wild West Pro Tour

                    Shout out to Wizards of the Coast for seeing some poor quality card pictures in the wild and letting us see them in high definition instead. Official MH3 spoilers dropped this week, on the heels of the latest Pro Tour. Stan and D00mwake discuss!

                    Do Pro Tours still mean anything? Perhaps when the format they feature is fresh and exciting! We don't talk about Standard often, but enough innovations emerged at PT Thunder Junction, we were pumped to chat about the latest cards and winning decks.

                    Speaking of latest cards. MH3 spoilers came early, despite the somewhat awkward circumstances. The Dive Down doesn't discuss leaks, but official spoilers have started to roll out and we chat about some standouts, including Flare of Denial, Winter Moon, Kappa Cannoneer, and Wight of the Reliquery.

                    The Break Down: A Pro Tour for the Cowboy In All Of Us

                    The Dive Down: A Look, A New Free Counterspell

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                    • Timestamps:

                      01:40 - Intro
                      02:00 - Holding a Heavy Play Heart
                      04:10 - A d00mwake-style Omelette
                      07:30 - This aggression will not stand
                      09:20 - This week’s show/housekeeping
                      16:05 - PT Seattle: What does it mean now?
                      19:40 - Overall Metagame
                      27:10 - Winrates
                      35:25 - Top 8
                      43:10 - Final thoughts on Standard
                      48:20 - Modern Horizons 3 early spoilers
                      49:05 - Nethergoyf
                      53:50 - Chthonian Nightmare
                      59:15 - Ugin’s Labyrinth
                      1:04:16 - Flare of Denial
                      1:09:22 - Kappa Cannoneer
                      1:12:45 - Winter Moon
                      1:16:25 - Wight of the Reliquary
                      1:21:21 - Wrapping Up

                      Links from this week's episode:

                      Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                      1 hr 25 min
                    • Episode 272: Slickshot Trick Shots

                      A new spellslinger's in town — goes by the name Slickshot Show-Off. This week we focus on the most hyped card coming into OTJ season, where it's fitting across formats, and talk about a few tricks to making sure the show off goes off without a hitch... off. Is there anything we can do to keep Dave from falling into a deep Prowess hole again? Probably not, but we're going to try — and just in case you're trying to avoid catching Prowess, too, we also talk about a few other decks Devon is having success with in Pioneer. But first — before all that — we dive into the Modern main event at this weekend's NRG Minneapolis tournament.

                      • NRG Minneapolis

                      • The Show Off Rides Again
                      • It's Basically Demonic Tutor

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                      • Timestamps:

                        4:30 - Heavy Play has clout
                        6:42 - This week's show/housekeeping
                        11:32 - The Break Down begins: NRG Minneapolis
                        24:34 - The top 8
                        28:55 - Cool Decks, Inc
                        33:04 - The Dive Down begins: We played some cool decks!
                        34:10 - Slickshot Showoff - does it live up to the hype in Modern?
                        56:45 - Does it live up to the hype in Pioneer?
                        1:09:05 - Golgari Vampires in Pioneer
                        1:16:35 - Azorius Mentor Zombies in Pioneer
                        1:25:18 - Wrapping up

                        Links from this week's episode:

                        NRG Modern Open Decklists: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/51194
                        Alex Poulosky, Modern Temur Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/388962
                        Nathan VanDinter, Modern Temur Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/388996
                        Ryan Overturf, Modern Gruul Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/387842
                        Devon O'Donnell, Pioneer Gruul Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6332355#paper
                        d00mwake, Pioneer Golgari Vampires: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6338707#paper
                        Devon O'Donnell (aka d00mwake), Pioneer UW Zombie Mentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6339425#paper

                        Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                        1 hr 28 min

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