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  • Episode 271: Casual Spiking RCQ Junction

    On this week’s show, we manage to fill that awkward week between spoilers and set release by preparing for the upcoming RCQ season, which conveniently kicks off this weekend. We take a look at the Pioneer metagame going into the season, and some possible upgrades from Outlaws of Thunder Junction that could shake up the format too.

    Everything but the water and Clif Bars

    New season old decks
    D00m has prepared some new decks

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    • Timestamps:

      5:42 - Barenaked Heavy Play
      7:35 - This week's show/housekeeping
      11:17 - The Dive Down begins: Prepping for Pioneer RCQ season
      22:21 - The current Pioneer meta - Tier 1
      42:07 - The Tier 2 decks
      56:31 - Some Cool Decks
      59:50 - d00m's hot new decks for Pioneer
      1:22:01 - Wrapping up

      Links from this week's episode:

      Anael Yahi's Data: https://twitter.com/anaelyahi/status/1779962905099665648
      Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-pioneer-decks-to-defeat-at-april-2024-rcqs
      MTGDecks.net Pioneer Winrates: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/winrates
      D00m's Dimir Proft: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322644#paper
      D00m's Slickshot Heroic: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322647#paper
      D00m's Azorius Geralf: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322650#paper
      D00m's MonoB Bronco: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322652#paper
      D00m's Bant Plot: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322653#paper

      Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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      1 hr 24 min
    • Episode 270: The BIG Lie: We Talk About More Cards

      We said we'd never lie to you, but maybe... maybe we'd forget that there were another 30 mythics left to talk about in this set. So we did it for you — more cards! This week Dave, Devon, and Shane talk about what might happen with some of these weird, weird cards from The Big Score. Do we tell a certain Jitte to stay lost? What happens when we break out the Synthesizer? What card that Devon loves left Dave and Shane quaking in their boots?

      After we discuss The Big Score, we take a quick trip through Pure Modern 5 — the most recent installment of Devon's "What if there was a simpler Modern?" tournaments.

      • Congrats, Tanner

      • The Spoils of the Vault
      • Pure Modern: Stormwing is Back, Baby

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      • Timestamps:

        1:40 - Heavy Play is not impacted by the eclipse
        5:52 - This week's show/housekeeping
        9:03 - The Dive Down begins: The Big Score
        12:20 - Lost Jitte
        19:08 - Worldwalker Helm
        23:00 - Simulacrum Synthesizer
        27:01 - Bristlebud Farmer
        30:22 - Torpor Orb
        32:26 - Pest Control
        36:26 - Generous Plunderer
        39:13 - Sandstorm Salvager
        41:25 - Harvester of Misery
        44:20 - Grand Abolisher
        46:35 - Legion Extruder
        48:42 - Memory Vessel
        49:58 - Esoteric Duplicator
        53:24 - Greed's Gambit
        57:16 - Sword of Wealth and Power
        59:55 - Loot, the Key to Everything
        1:02:52 - d00mwake's 5th Pure Modern tournament
        1:17:08 - Wrapping up

        Links from this week's episode:

        d00m's Pure Modern 5 Meta: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/70042

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        1 hr 20 min
      • Episode 269: Cowboy Hats Will Be Worn Until Morale Improves

        Our friends from across the Multiverse have flooded the desert sands of Thunder Junction, and brought a host of exciting new spoiler cards with them. We recap some of our favorite cards and other notable arrivals in Magic's 100th set.

        Are all the Spree cards great or merely good? Is the emphasis on Crime cards the latest symptom of Magic's moral decline? Have we lost the Plot or simply found a new way to cast spells for free?

        D00mwake likes Duelist of the Mind. Dave likes Requisition Raid. Shane likes Magda, the Hoardmaster. Stan likes Calamity, Galloping Inferno.

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        • Timestamps:

          6:39 - Heavy Play is not an April Fool's joke
          8:54 - Housekeeping/this week's episode
          11:15 - The mechanics of Outlaws of Thunder Junction
          20:07 - Aven Interrupter
          23:58 - Final Showdown
          27:05 - Fortune, Loyal Steed
          29:07 - High Noon
          31:30 - Claim Jumper
          33:15 - Requisition Raid/Bovine Intervention
          37:16 - Getaway Glamour
          37:17 - Oltec Matterweaver
          41:15 - Archmages Newt
          44:28 - Duelist of the Mind
          48:24 - Jace, Reawakened
          51:22 - Geralf, the Fleshwright
          53:35 - The Key to the Vault
          56:49 - Three Steps Ahead
          59:10 - Kaervek, the Punisher
          1:10:59 - Hollow Murauder
          1:04:30 - Lively Dirge
          1:07:06 - Insatiable Avarice
          1:09:09 - Pitiless Carnage
          1:10:40 - Magda, the Hordemaster
          1:13:22 - Magebane Lizard/Reckless Lackey
          1:14:40 - Slickshot Showoff
          1:19:01 - Calamity, Galloping Inferno
          1:20:40 - Aloe Alchemist/Bristly Bill, Spine Sower
          1:22:40 - Collosal Rattlewurm
          1:24:14 - Smuggler's Surprise
          1:27:10 - Railway Brawler
          1:29:05 - Ornery Tumblewagg/Trash the Town
          1:32:40 - Akul the Unrepentant
          1:34:30 - Assimilation Aegis
          1:36:40 - Doc Aurlock, Grizzled Genius/Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds/Intimidation Campaign
          1:38:04 - Oko, the Ringleader/Obeka, Splitter of Seconds
          1:40:36 - Satoru, the Infiltrator
          1:44:35 - Pillage the Bog
          1:46:54 - Lavaspur Boots
          1:50:08 - Wrapping up

          Links from this week's episode:

          https://scryfall.com/sets/otj?order=set&as=grid

          Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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          1 hr 52 min
        • Episode 268: A Trip to Prague, the Zoo, and an RCQ

          Results are in from LMS Prague and we break down the top decks at the 265 player event. Then chat about our experiences playing a couple versions of Domain Zoo. And D00mwake shares the secret to winning an RCQ.

          The Break Down: Legacy European Tour Master Series Prague, Grand Open Qualifier (Modern)

          The Dive Down: Takeaways - A Domain Zoo Experience Discussion
          The Wind Down: D00mwake won an RCQ!

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          • Timestamps:

            5:35 - Heavy Plan is not from Khans era
            7:33 - This week's episode/housekeeping
            11:35 - The Break Down begins: The Legacy European Tour Prague Modern Open!
            23:18 - The top 8 results
            30:27 - Winrates and matchups
            48:20 - How are we feeling about Modern?
            53:04 - The Dive Down begins: It's all happening at the zoo
            1:17:05 - Devon won another RCQ!
            1:29:51 - Wrapping up

            Links from this week's episode:

            https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/59235
            https://twitter.com/MTGdecks/status/1772028283762192725
            https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6272273#paper
            https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6273416#paper
            https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1771203670236909886

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            1 hr 32 min
          • Episode 267: Somewhere Over the Rainbow: Post-Ban Modern Results & Testing

            This weekend was the annual Hunter Burton Memorial Open, the first large paper Modern tournament since the recent B&R. We dive into the tournament results to see where the format is headed, try out some of the latest versions of Rhinos to see if Cascade still works, and enjoy a little Goryo's Vengeance as a treat.

            Thanks to smarter people than us, we've reviewed a ton of Modern results and win percentages to get a sense for who's beating who in the latest Modern format. We review some of the expected strategies to rise in popularity in a post-Rhino Modern tournament, admire some possible up and comers to the metagame, and pontificate about where Modern can go from here.

            Then Stan and Shane fire up some Rhino decks to see if the Cascade hits keep coming without Violent Outburst, and Stan finally wraps up his Goryo's Vengeance league and experiences some Scam flashbacks.

            The Break Down: Hunter Burton Memorial Open results to chew on.

            The Dive Down: Rainbow Rhino and Goryo's Vengeance decks to stew on.

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            • Timestamps:

              4:20 - Heavy Play gets a thumbs up
              6:53 - This week's episode/housekeeping
              10:16 - The Break Down begins: The HBMO Modern Event
              53:34 - Stan plays Goryo's Vengeance
              1:06:05 - Stan and Shane played the new Rainbow Rhinos
              1:32:39 - Wrapping up

              Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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              1 hr 35 min
            • Episode 266: Violent Reactions to a Modern Outburst

              The mad lads did it, they banned our beloved Violent Outburst in Modern. We're not particularly happy about the outcome or its communication, but we discuss what it means for Cascade decks and the format moving forward.

              In today's episode, we delve into the somewhat surprising B&R announcement and discuss the survivability of Cascade strategies moving forward. We assess some potential winners and losers from the news, including some decks to watch out for in the coming weeks, including Yawgmoth, Titan, Reaninator, Creativity, and more. We also express our concerns about the ban announcement lacking detailed data, as we had hoped for more transparent communication from Wizards of the Coast. The absence of bans in Pioneer also caught our attention, and we critiqued the announcement for its perceived shortcomings, urging for greater detail and insight in future communications.

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              • Timestamps:

                2:15 - Heavy Play will not be banned
                4:52 - This week's episode/housekeeping
                7:32 - The Dive Down begins: Violent Outburst is banned!
                32:33 - How we feel about the actual ban
                45:00 - Where does Rhinos go?
                50:50 - Where does Modern go?
                1:02:25 - What about Pioneer?
                1:13:45 - Yes, we talked about Balatro again
                1:29:47 - Wrapping up

                Links from this week's episode:

                March 11 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-11-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement

                Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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                1 hr 32 min
              • Episode 265: Why Does Everyone Hate Modern Now?

                A discourse is brewing on this week's Dive Down, as the rhino boyz reflect on some of the issues Modern players seem to have with the current format and metagame. Can we close Pandora's box of free spells and triomes? Will MH3 save us? Or could WOTC do something more... drastic..?

                The Break Down: Devon asked, you answered.

                The Dive Down: Eight Hateful Hypotheses

                The Wind Down: Love that joker... for about 20 minutes.

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                • Timestamps:

                  4:30 - Heavy Play: easy to open
                  8:09 - This week's episode/housekeeping
                  11:50 - The Dive Down begins: Modern's Hate Hypotheses
                  21:25 - Grief.
                  27:55 - Cascade.
                  39:15 - Free spells.
                  49:35 - The mana.
                  58:37 - The One Ring/Bowmasters.
                  1:07:51 - Modern is stale.
                  1:12:16 - Did a perfect Modern ever exist?
                  1:19:50 - The Wind Down: It's Balatro time!
                  1:38:18 - Wrapping up

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                  1 hr 41 min
                • Episode 264: Rippin’ Veins & Takin’ Names at MagicCon Chicago

                  Last weekend was MagicCon Chicago — and wow are we tired, friends. Join the Rhino Boyz as we recap the main event, side events, and small events that made up what was a great weekend in the Motor City! Shane give a metagame breakdown of the PT. Stan takes a shot at the cup. D00m plays the hero. Dave falls in love with a bunch of real Jokers.

                  • They Broke It

                  • Rats, Assassins, Villians, and Free Spells
                  • We Tried It

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                  • Timestamps:

                    3:38 - Heavy Play is not on a PIP
                    6:18 - This week's show/housekeeping
                    10:42 - The Break Down begins: MagicCon Chicago!
                    14:11 - A Pro Tour MKM breakdown
                    39:08 - The PT Top 8
                    41:46 - Final thoughts on the PT
                    45:04 - 4 new sets from the MC Preview Panel
                    1:10:53 - An interview with Blake Rasmussen and Roy Graham from WOTC
                    1:32:30 - The Dive Down begins: Rakdos Vampires takes a bite out of Pioneer
                    1:52:48 - Wrapping up

                    Links from this week's episode:

                    PT Meta on Melee: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/52679
                    Frank Karsten's WR%s: https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1761570878737748061/photo/1
                    Preview card reference: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/future-sets-spoilers-february-23-modern-horizons-3-thunder-junction-bloomburrow-and-assassin-s-creed
                    Seth Manfield's/CFB's RB Vampires Decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6211825#paper

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                    1 hr 55 min
                  • Episode 263: What Are We Playing in Chicago? Plus NRG... Chicago

                    The MagicCon is finally upon us. We prepare for a weekend full of side events by looking at the most exciting innovations for our favorite formats, and figure out how to win the most tickets for the coveted prize wall.

                    We take a look at Modern and Standard results since the release of Murders, plus whatever Pioneer results we can get our hands on, to share our favorite decks in each format and what strategies appear to be performing best too.

                    We also stop by the first NRG Series Open of the year in beauitiful Elmhurst, Illinois to chat with Dom Harvey, Misplaced Ginger, and Christian Calcano!

                    Don't forget, sign up for the officicial Dive Down afterparty at thedivedown.com/chicago!

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                    • Timestamps:

                      3:56 - Heavy Play: not complicated
                      6:04 - This week's show/housekeeping
                      12:37 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Chicago Pioneer $10k
                      19:05 - An interview with Derek Pite (aka Misplaced Ginger)
                      27:27 - Back to NRG Chicago
                      39:38 - The NRG Chicago Standard $5k
                      42:50 - The Dive Down begins: Planning for Magiccon Chicago!
                      48:58 - What we're playing in Modern
                      1:07:55 - What we're playing in Pioneer
                      1:18:58 - An interview with Dom Harvey
                      1:29:21 - Some Standard thoughts
                      1:42:04 - An interview with Christian Calcano
                      1:48:10 - Some final stuff about Magiccon Chicago
                      1:50:11 - Wrapping up

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                      1 hr 52 min
                    • Episode 262: Rainbow Rhinos and 19,442 Matches of Modern

                      Join us this week as we discuss how Modern has gone rainbow. The full compliment of Rhino Boys — Dave, Devon, Shane, and Stan — are together for the first time this year. We're talking about Modern in upheaval and the results from all the RCs this last weekend.

                      • thedivedown.com/chicago

                      • Rhino Supremacy, Part XXIV
                      • Lifelink, Hexproof, Trample, First Strike, Vigilance

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                      • Timestamps:

                        0:01 - A big announcement!
                        5:05 - Heavy mise en Play-ce
                        7:56 - This week's episode/housekeeping
                        14:51 - The Dive Down: Modern Upheaval, and not the card
                        17:40 - The Dallas RC meta and Leyline Rhinos
                        25:30 - Dallas winrates and conversion rates
                        38:15 - The Dallas top 8 and other Modern events
                        44:29 - A giant winrate matrix
                        56:10 - Up-and-coming decks from the past weekend
                        1:08:41 - Dave played Leyline Zoo
                        1:16:02 - Stan played Leyline Rhinos
                        1:23:40 - Devon played Goryo's Vengeance Asmo stuff
                        1:30:02 - Some brief Pioneer NRG prep chat
                        1:33:05 - Wrapping up

                        Links from this week's episode:

                        Denver RC listsing: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/54549
                        @AzoriusI's data: https://twitter.com/AzoriusI/status/1757036428674891821?t=eUvsssljH2AZZ0U3SmOWpA&s=19
                        Typical Rainbow Rhinos List (from Mack Endress): https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/363672
                        Modern Matrix from MtgDecks.net: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/winrates/range:custom_2024-02-09_2024-02-12
                        d00mwake's Goryo's Vengeance list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6173859#paper

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                        1 hr 35 min

                      About The Dive Down

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                      The Dive Down is a weekly podcast for people who love Magic: The Gathering but like talking about other things too. From videogames, to parenting, to 3D printing, and beyond. Each week hosts Dave,…

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