This episode is part of our “What Plants Crave” series, where Dr. Sabeh speaks with growers, researchers, and other experts in other engineers, growers, and manufacturers who work in controlled environment agriculture, to get their insights about the direction of the industry, and of course, what exactly it is that plants crave. This week we’re speaking to Nick Denney of Holistic Industries.
Nick is the Director of Cultivation for Holistic Industries, a multi-state cannabis operator based in Washington DC. Nick began his career growing leafy greens, fruits, and vegetables in South FL where he managed a hydroponic greenhouse and started a small farm that sold specialty produce to the area's top chefs.
During that time, he also earned his M.S. in Agronomy from the University of Florida, focusing on crop physiology and sustainable agricultural practices. He made the transition to cannabis in early 2018 when he joined Holistic Industries and currently oversees all Holistic cultivation operations, which has now expanded to 7 states (DC, MD, MA, PA, MI, MO, WV). His main duties include supporting the Cultivation Managers in each state to maximize efficiency and output, overseeing the company's genetics program, and leading the cultivation design and equipment selections for renovations or new construction.
He currently resides in Maryland, just outside of Washington DC, with his wife Vanessa and 2 beagles, Chili and Pachita.
1:30 Operating Holistic Industries across different states
4:50 Quitting law and growing plants
9:30 Aquaponics and black soldier fly larvae
11:00 Learning to grow leafies, tomatoes, and berries in a hydroponic greenhouse
13:00 Were you able to grow in a greenhouse year-round in Florida?
15:00 Have you ever eaten a cucumber blossom?
15:30 How did you get to cannabis?
20:00 Are the benefits of growing indoors the same across all states?
21:00 Biggest learning curve going from greenhouse to indoor: Learning how all the different variables interact with each other
23:30 Biggest learning curve going from tomatoes to cannabis: Growing indeterminate vs determinate plant, postharvest, and growing a diecious plant
25:45 What is a diecious plant?
27:00 Are there similarities between the vegetative stage of cannabis and vegetative crops like lettuce?
30:10 Choosing the cultivar based on season
32:20 What does it mean to steer a plant?
37:15 Having so much variety in cannabis is one of the most exciting parts of the industry
40:45 Which environmental cues can you adjust to steer multiple types of plants in the same space?
44:00 What are irrigation cues you can use to steer the plant?
48:00 The importance of crop registration to steer the plant
49:00 Is there such thing as Indica and Sativa varieties?
51:30 Dial back foxtailing with more generative cues
53:30 Has serendipity ever struck?
56:00 What goes into registering a crop?
58:30 Data can never replace a grower’s intuition
59:30 The sales-production feedback loop and the perpetual dominance of potency
1:03:30 Who reviews environmental data?
1:04:30 What has been your experience switching from HPS to LED?
1:10:30 Less canopy = more control, more canopy = less control
1:11:20 What does efficiency mean to you?
1:12:40 The importance of growers sharing information with each other
1:16:00 Do not ignore the legacy growers
1:17:00 The Hydro Store as Cooperative Extension
1:20:20 How do you see the cannabis industry evolving over the next 5-10 years?
1:21:50 What do plants crave?
1:23:00 Rapid fire questions
1:26:00 Nick’s favorite plant to garden