My guest today is Jeanne Stolzer PhD, a scientist and a friend from whom I always learn something new.  I guarantee that you will have new important insights into life if you listen to this amazing interview with Jeanne.  It's about what it means to be a human mammal whose evolution has made our success and well-being dependent upon close nurturing from a nursing mother (yes, a nursing mother, not a nondescript nurturer), with a close attachment to her for months and years.  Here is a political fact:  free government nurseries that are being pushed are not the answer for children.  The answer, if it comes from the government, needs to be financial support for extensive maternal leave.  Our children need mothers and without that they end up with diagnoses and drugs both psychiatric and medical.   Jeanne graphically describes, backed by research, the necessity of a child’s immersion in both its relationship with its mother and with nature. Then, throughout life as adults, we all need strong attachments of friendship and love to other human beings and to nature.  Nurturing cures! Nature cures!  Listen to this hour about what we humans really need and have needed throughout our millions of years as mammals leading up to our current status as homo sapiens.  Be homo sapiens—be wise about our lives and learn from this wonderful conversation with Jeanne Stolzer.