What if you could install solar panels and a home battery today, but didn't have to pay a cent until you sold your house?

In this timely conversation, Francis Vierboom, CEO of Rewiring Australia, joins the show to discuss the "EELS" plan—the Electrify Everything Loan Scheme. While middle Australia is currently riding a massive wave of solar and battery installations to escape soaring energy prices, millions of low-income earners, pensioners, and renters are being left behind in the dark.

Vierboom breaks down their bold 2026 Budget submission: a government-backed, HECS-style loan indexed only to inflation. We explore how this could bridge the gap for the 60% of low-income Australians who own their homes but can't find the $15,000+ upfront capital to electrify. From "standard" $11 electricity bills to the complexities of getting solar onto rental properties and apartments, this episode is a blueprint for an energy system that actually includes everyone.

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