For the final episode of the season, host Jessie Graham explores the “elephants in the room” at this year’s Munich Security Conference—mainly, whether or not the United States is still adhering to the rules-based order. This refers to an established set of norms between Western allies. With so much in flux, the conference serves a critical venue for leaders to convene and work out their differences with frank and candid dialogue.

Munich Moments is a co-production of the Munich Security Conference and Foreign Policy.

Our show is hosted and produced by Jessie Graham and edited by Rob Sachs.

Our production team includes Andreas Block, Judith Sordon, Marie Zeisler, Nour Saad, and Annalena Enold.

Additional production help from Charlie Garcia in Berlin, Jessica Robinson in Oslo, Leo Simon in Munich, and Josse Sennesael in Brussels.

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