FFRF Victory! Staff attorney Madeline Ziegler joins us to talk about our recent victory in federal court removing a 34-foot-tall Christian cross from a city park in Pensacola, Florida, a decision that has upset prominent evangelicals like Franklin Graham, Mike Huckabee, Bill Donohue and Marco Rubio. After hearing Lena Horne’s performance of the irreverent Yip Harburg song “Ain’t It The Truth,” we talk with Pulitzer-Prize winning author Frances Fitzgerald about her new book, The Evangelicals: The Struggle To Shape America.