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The Evergetinos does not offer us inspiring stories. It offers us a blade. These elders do not behave reasonably. They do not protect their reputations. They do not appeal to due process. They do not defend themselves. They kneel. They ask forgiveness for crimes they did not commit. They accept punishment. They allow their names to be dragged through the dust. And this is exactly where modern religious people begin to choke.
We admire Christ until His way threatens our dignity. We praise the Cross until it begins to cost us something that feels personal. We speak of humility until it asks us to surrender our right to be seen as innocent. Then the mind rises up. The lawyer wakes. Natural reason sharpens its pen. We start dissecting the text. Surely this is symbolic. Surely this is exaggerated. Surely there must be limits.
But the Gospel has no interest in preserving your image. The divine ethos revealed in Christ is not reasonable. It is cruciform.
Look at the Elder who accepts blame for theft. He knows he did not steal. He also knows something far more dangerous. He knows that Christ Himself was accused, beaten and condemned while innocent. So he chooses to stand where Christ stands rather than where the ego demands to stand. He does not argue. He does not clarify. He does not try to control the narrative. He bows. He becomes small. He lets truth be carried by God rather than by his own voice.
This is not weakness. It is terrifying strength.
In the second account the Deacon accepts public disgrace, penance and exclusion from communion for a crime planted in his cell by envy. He allows his spiritual father and the entire community to think him a thief. Why. Because love of God is worth more than the right to be seen as virtuous. And because hatred of slanderers is more deadly than slander itself.
Notice what breaks the demonic power. Not investigation. Not confession extracted by pressure. But the prayer of the one who was falsely accused. Only the slandered man can heal the slanderer. This is the law of the Cross. Wounds heal wounds when they are offered in love.
The story of Abba Nikon goes even further. He is beaten, excommunicated and isolated for three years for a crime he did not commit. He stands outside the church every Sunday begging for prayer like a criminal. When his innocence is finally revealed, he does not remain to receive praise. He leaves. He knows that glory is as dangerous as slander. Both feed the ego. Both can poison the soul.
This is what divine discernment looks like. Not clever arguments but crucified love.
Abba Isaiah gives the rule that offends every modern religious instinct. If you are slandered make a prostration and say forgive me even if you do not know what you did. This is not moral confusion. It is spiritual clarity. It is a refusal to let the heart harden. It is the choice to stand with Christ rather than with self justification.
St Maximos explains why this cuts so deeply. The demons cannot always trap us through money or pleasure. So they use slander. They try to provoke hatred. They want you to burn with indignation. They want you to lose love. They want you to step off the Cross and into self defense. To endure slander without hatred is one of the highest ascetical acts. It requires that you look to God alone for vindication.
St Ephraim then gives the final warning. Even when the truth comes out do not become proud. Do not feast on your vindication. God delivered you. You did not save yourself.
This is why we want to soften these stories. They leave no room for spiritual narcissism. They strip away our moral theater. They expose how deeply attached we are to being right, to being respected, to being seen as good.
The Cross does not negotiate with your ego. It kills it.
Slander reveals what we truly love. If we love Christ we will accept being misunderstood. If we love ourselves we will fight to be cleared.
The Evergetinos does not ask whether this is fair. It asks whether you want to belong to the Crucified.
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Text of chat during the group:
00:01:41 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Page 349 number 2
00:03:19 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Philokaliaministries.org/blog
00:04:07 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: https://www.youtube.com/@philokaliaministries
00:09:55 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Two possible Philokalia Novice Conference Series
00:11:58 Bob Čihák, AZ: P. 349 #2
00:12:46 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: 1. The Inner Grammar of the Eastern Christian Life
This would be a 10 to 12 week arc that shows how Eastern Christianity is not merely a set of beliefs or practices but a therapeutic and mystical way of being human.
Each session takes one essential dimension of the ascetical and sacramental life and shows how it works together with the others.
2. Urban Asceticism: A Prelude to the Way of Hidden Fire
These reflections are for those who are trying to live a real spiritual life in the middle of ordinary, complicated, and often exhausting circumstances.
Not as an escape from the world
Here we explore the ancient wisdom of the desert fathers and the lived experience of the Church as a way of healing the heart and learning how to dwell with God in hiddenness.
This is not a program or a method.
It is a way.
Two possible Philokalia Novice Conference Series
00:12:56 Janine: Oh those look great!
00:13:18 Bob Čihák, AZ: P. 349 #2
00:13:27 Jacqulyn Dudasko: Reacted to "Oh those look great!" with 👍
00:16:40 Wayne: Quick question? Is there a difference between gossip and slander?
00:22:19 Bob Čihák, AZ: P. 350 #3
00:33:10 Joan Chakonas: Turning the other cheek in all circumstances- these lessons are deep.
00:36:56 Myles Davidson: In translating these stories to modern times, it doesn’t seem prudent to admit to a crime one didn’t do if police are involved. Would you agree these stories are very much situational?
00:38:03 Joan Chakonas: Very valuable. I can’t think of any other way to convey these understandings to turn the other cheek. Psychological smack downs versus physical ones.
00:38:58 Angela Bellamy: Recently, reading the Gospels, I was struck by how plainly Christ speaks about what must be endured for His sake. In that light, the saints’ words on slander feel very concrete. The Christian life seems to be about learning to remain faithful even when the flow of life is difficult, trusting that Christ is with us in whatever He allows.
00:45:07 Jonathan Grobler: What an absolute freedom it would be to be free of the ego. The freedom of a fool of Christ.
To no longer care about yourself, but care only about God and others.
00:45:47 Angela Bellamy: Reacted to "What an absolute fre..." with ❤️
00:45:49 Anna: What if you're falsely accused of murder, then you're up to being killed as the punishment, are you to speak up to protect your life or not speak up? From my 13 yr old daughter
00:47:33 Jessica McHale: Reacted to "What an absolute f..." with ❤️
00:48:22 paul g.: Slander and gossip disturb our own peace/silence.
00:49:46 Lee Graham: Reacted to "What an absolute fre…" with ❤️
00:49:47 Anna: Wouldn't there sometimes be a need for justice of truth for the sake of the soul?
00:59:44 Larry Ruggiero: Man’s justice is never good for the people, because man’s justice is always lacking. Lacking because it is done without Christ teachings.
01:09:02 Maureen Cunningham: Who is Susannah ?
01:09:37 Forrest: Replying to "Who is Susannah ?"
Chapter 13 of Daniel
01:11:43 Anna: Pray Jesus prayers for them 😂
01:13:01 Angela Bellamy: Thank you Father for your time this evening. Looking forward to the new lectures you'll be posting on YouTube.
01:13:39 Jessica McHale: What you do, Father, is sent from God. Yes, this is deeply formative. Thank you!!! Many prayers for you!
01:13:44 Kevin Burke: Thank You Father!
01:13:46 Maureen Cunningham: T hank You always a Blessing
01:13:59 Angela Bellamy: Reacted to "What you do, Father,..." with 🙏
01:14:33 Jennifer Dantchev: Thank you!
01:14:44 Charmaine's iPad: Thank you
By Father David Abernethy4.8
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The Evergetinos does not offer us inspiring stories. It offers us a blade. These elders do not behave reasonably. They do not protect their reputations. They do not appeal to due process. They do not defend themselves. They kneel. They ask forgiveness for crimes they did not commit. They accept punishment. They allow their names to be dragged through the dust. And this is exactly where modern religious people begin to choke.
We admire Christ until His way threatens our dignity. We praise the Cross until it begins to cost us something that feels personal. We speak of humility until it asks us to surrender our right to be seen as innocent. Then the mind rises up. The lawyer wakes. Natural reason sharpens its pen. We start dissecting the text. Surely this is symbolic. Surely this is exaggerated. Surely there must be limits.
But the Gospel has no interest in preserving your image. The divine ethos revealed in Christ is not reasonable. It is cruciform.
Look at the Elder who accepts blame for theft. He knows he did not steal. He also knows something far more dangerous. He knows that Christ Himself was accused, beaten and condemned while innocent. So he chooses to stand where Christ stands rather than where the ego demands to stand. He does not argue. He does not clarify. He does not try to control the narrative. He bows. He becomes small. He lets truth be carried by God rather than by his own voice.
This is not weakness. It is terrifying strength.
In the second account the Deacon accepts public disgrace, penance and exclusion from communion for a crime planted in his cell by envy. He allows his spiritual father and the entire community to think him a thief. Why. Because love of God is worth more than the right to be seen as virtuous. And because hatred of slanderers is more deadly than slander itself.
Notice what breaks the demonic power. Not investigation. Not confession extracted by pressure. But the prayer of the one who was falsely accused. Only the slandered man can heal the slanderer. This is the law of the Cross. Wounds heal wounds when they are offered in love.
The story of Abba Nikon goes even further. He is beaten, excommunicated and isolated for three years for a crime he did not commit. He stands outside the church every Sunday begging for prayer like a criminal. When his innocence is finally revealed, he does not remain to receive praise. He leaves. He knows that glory is as dangerous as slander. Both feed the ego. Both can poison the soul.
This is what divine discernment looks like. Not clever arguments but crucified love.
Abba Isaiah gives the rule that offends every modern religious instinct. If you are slandered make a prostration and say forgive me even if you do not know what you did. This is not moral confusion. It is spiritual clarity. It is a refusal to let the heart harden. It is the choice to stand with Christ rather than with self justification.
St Maximos explains why this cuts so deeply. The demons cannot always trap us through money or pleasure. So they use slander. They try to provoke hatred. They want you to burn with indignation. They want you to lose love. They want you to step off the Cross and into self defense. To endure slander without hatred is one of the highest ascetical acts. It requires that you look to God alone for vindication.
St Ephraim then gives the final warning. Even when the truth comes out do not become proud. Do not feast on your vindication. God delivered you. You did not save yourself.
This is why we want to soften these stories. They leave no room for spiritual narcissism. They strip away our moral theater. They expose how deeply attached we are to being right, to being respected, to being seen as good.
The Cross does not negotiate with your ego. It kills it.
Slander reveals what we truly love. If we love Christ we will accept being misunderstood. If we love ourselves we will fight to be cleared.
The Evergetinos does not ask whether this is fair. It asks whether you want to belong to the Crucified.
---
Text of chat during the group:
00:01:41 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Page 349 number 2
00:03:19 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Philokaliaministries.org/blog
00:04:07 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: https://www.youtube.com/@philokaliaministries
00:09:55 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Two possible Philokalia Novice Conference Series
00:11:58 Bob Čihák, AZ: P. 349 #2
00:12:46 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: 1. The Inner Grammar of the Eastern Christian Life
This would be a 10 to 12 week arc that shows how Eastern Christianity is not merely a set of beliefs or practices but a therapeutic and mystical way of being human.
Each session takes one essential dimension of the ascetical and sacramental life and shows how it works together with the others.
2. Urban Asceticism: A Prelude to the Way of Hidden Fire
These reflections are for those who are trying to live a real spiritual life in the middle of ordinary, complicated, and often exhausting circumstances.
Not as an escape from the world
Here we explore the ancient wisdom of the desert fathers and the lived experience of the Church as a way of healing the heart and learning how to dwell with God in hiddenness.
This is not a program or a method.
It is a way.
Two possible Philokalia Novice Conference Series
00:12:56 Janine: Oh those look great!
00:13:18 Bob Čihák, AZ: P. 349 #2
00:13:27 Jacqulyn Dudasko: Reacted to "Oh those look great!" with 👍
00:16:40 Wayne: Quick question? Is there a difference between gossip and slander?
00:22:19 Bob Čihák, AZ: P. 350 #3
00:33:10 Joan Chakonas: Turning the other cheek in all circumstances- these lessons are deep.
00:36:56 Myles Davidson: In translating these stories to modern times, it doesn’t seem prudent to admit to a crime one didn’t do if police are involved. Would you agree these stories are very much situational?
00:38:03 Joan Chakonas: Very valuable. I can’t think of any other way to convey these understandings to turn the other cheek. Psychological smack downs versus physical ones.
00:38:58 Angela Bellamy: Recently, reading the Gospels, I was struck by how plainly Christ speaks about what must be endured for His sake. In that light, the saints’ words on slander feel very concrete. The Christian life seems to be about learning to remain faithful even when the flow of life is difficult, trusting that Christ is with us in whatever He allows.
00:45:07 Jonathan Grobler: What an absolute freedom it would be to be free of the ego. The freedom of a fool of Christ.
To no longer care about yourself, but care only about God and others.
00:45:47 Angela Bellamy: Reacted to "What an absolute fre..." with ❤️
00:45:49 Anna: What if you're falsely accused of murder, then you're up to being killed as the punishment, are you to speak up to protect your life or not speak up? From my 13 yr old daughter
00:47:33 Jessica McHale: Reacted to "What an absolute f..." with ❤️
00:48:22 paul g.: Slander and gossip disturb our own peace/silence.
00:49:46 Lee Graham: Reacted to "What an absolute fre…" with ❤️
00:49:47 Anna: Wouldn't there sometimes be a need for justice of truth for the sake of the soul?
00:59:44 Larry Ruggiero: Man’s justice is never good for the people, because man’s justice is always lacking. Lacking because it is done without Christ teachings.
01:09:02 Maureen Cunningham: Who is Susannah ?
01:09:37 Forrest: Replying to "Who is Susannah ?"
Chapter 13 of Daniel
01:11:43 Anna: Pray Jesus prayers for them 😂
01:13:01 Angela Bellamy: Thank you Father for your time this evening. Looking forward to the new lectures you'll be posting on YouTube.
01:13:39 Jessica McHale: What you do, Father, is sent from God. Yes, this is deeply formative. Thank you!!! Many prayers for you!
01:13:44 Kevin Burke: Thank You Father!
01:13:46 Maureen Cunningham: T hank You always a Blessing
01:13:59 Angela Bellamy: Reacted to "What you do, Father,..." with 🙏
01:14:33 Jennifer Dantchev: Thank you!
01:14:44 Charmaine's iPad: Thank you

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