In this wide ranging conversation with historian and podcaster Paul Cooper, we explore the themes in his new book The Fall of Civilisations. Paul has examined numerous ancient and medieval civilisations from the Assyrians to the peoples of Easter Island to understand the factors and tipping points that lead to the end of civilisations. We explore how empires divide, how civil conflicts begin, the role of food insecurity and other stress factors and how likely our civilisation will reach its own existential crisis.

• Note: There were a couple of audio issues in this podcast, but stick with it, it's well worth it.

You can hear Paul's podcast here, and Paul's book Fall of Civilisations is available here

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