Sunsara Taylor interviews Dr. Kristin Kobes Du Mez (@kkdumez), author of Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation, about the rise of militant and militaristic patriarchy among Christian fascists as a major social force in this country (originally broadcast on The RNL Show). 

Then, Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) and Coco Das @coco_das talk about how and why the call for continuous non-violent mass protests to drive out the Trump/Pence regime didn't take root - and why that means we still face a serious threat of fascism in the United States. 

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.