Where is God when our hearts are filled with agony? Is he behind our circumstances orchestrating them? Is he allowing them for some higher purpose for us? Is he just an indifferent spectator, watching us go through them? Or is he in them with us, holding our pain as he invites us to hold his as well? Wayne shares an experience with Kyle from a couple of months ago that has taken him on a new trajectory, gazing not only through the victory of the cross but the agony that God feels for the broken Creation and his loss of relationships with people he loves because of lies told about him. While we all crave joy and comfort, there is more to be learned in our pain and sorrow. As the Preacher said in Ecclesiastes, "Sorrow is better than laughter; it probes the depth of the heart." (7:3) They also talk about the inspiration of Scripture earlier in the podcast.

Podcast Notes:

* The video recording of this podcast.

* Wayne's video series — The Jesus Lens

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* DATE CHANGE: The next Jake Colsen Book Club session will be held Sunday, March 5, at 1:30 pm PST.  You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will explore Chapter 10: Won to Trust, as we process how Jesus teaches us to trust him and what he wants, rather than trying to get him to give us the outcomes we want for ourselves. We will stream it live on my Facebook Author Page, but if you want to be part of the conversation, you can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it.