Brian O’Leary just did the first ascent of the hardest mixed climb in New England: Middle Child, an M-13 at the mica mine. We’ll talk about his process for sending the route and what M-13 means in the mixed climbing world. Then, we’ll discuss the complicated ethics that arise when developing on choss. 

Plus, Jay helps Brian choose his first 5.13 sport climb to tackle! 

Brian is co-founder and owner of Forecast Climbing Equipment. Check out their awesome line of products here. 

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The information expressed in this episode is for entertainment purposes only, and is not intended as, nor should it be interpreted as, informational or instructional.