In our continued "why we're not series" Dr. Tim Stratton and Josh Klein turn their eyes towards Catholicism. Why aren't they Catholic? They give four reasons why and the fourth one may surprise you!

Sound Faith Conference 2025: soundfaithomaha.com 

Why we're not Open Theists: https://youtube.com/live/ZY1kjfq90ZU

Why I Love The Catholic Church and Why I'm Not A Catholic Article: https://freethinkingministries.com/why-i-love-the-catholic-church-and-why-i-am-not-catholic/

 What it means to be protestant by Gavin Ortlund: https://a.co/d/cnF7371

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00:00 Introduction

09:00 Why We Love Catholics

19:37 Reason 1 - Marian Doctrine

26:18 Reason 2 - The Role of Baptism in Salvation

33:22 Sound Faith Omaha!

35:55 Reason 3 - Papal Authority (And Church Infallibility)

47:03 Reason 4 - The Eucharist and Transubstantiation

53:42 The Importance of Clarity in Debate

59:00 Concluding Thoughts

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You won't want to miss this! Recently a guy named Andy went viral for releasing his conversation with ChatGPT to the world. One in which he discovered, in real time, that Atheism was false and Theist, particularly Christian Theism, was true. Did ChatGPT REALLY lead this man to Christ or was something else happening? Dr. Tim Stratton and Josh Klein explore these questions and his testimony on today's show.

Andy Koons:

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@andykoons?lang=en

X: https://x.com/andy_koons Andy's conversation with

ChatGPT: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-M9tLKmX3EBpjeI5gpdhhPblWzur5I33EWPb6eLoHKs/edit?tab=t.0

Dr. Leighton Flowers joins the program as Dr. Tim Stratton and Josh Klein discuss the philosophical, theological and pastoral importance of 1 Corinthians 10:13 in the Free Will discussion. It is NOT, something that you can just hand wave away and it only makes sense if Libertarian Free Will is true. Take a look!

You can find Dr. Leighton Flowers at  @Soteriology101  and  @BraxtonHunter .

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00:00 Introduction

03:00 Introducing Dr. Leighton Flowers

05:43 Why Dr. Flowers and Dr. Stratton View 1 Cor. 10:13 As Important

08:47 Dr. Flowers and the Biblical Data

10:18 Why We've Moved Past Divine Determinism

13:53 What Does 1 Corinthians 10:13 SAY?

22:00 Pre-Fall Freedom?

26:35 Are We Taking 1 Corinthians 10:13 Out of Context?

30:20 What Happens When We Smuggle Determinism Into the Text

33:27 A Tail of Two Pastors On Sin

38:14 How the Broader Context Makes LFW Even More Clear

50:00 What About People Who Have "Set Their Wills" Like Addicts?

57:52 Responding to James White on 1 Cor. 10:13

1:11:00 What About Secondary Causes?

1:16:00 Final Thoughts

1:20:55 Conclusion

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Recently someone on X used Grok to refute Dr. Tim Stratton's DoD (Deity of Deception) argument against Calvinism. In this episode we discuss this attempt, why it failed, and why when we use AI we need to be VERY careful how we use it.

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The original Grok prompt and response: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_f1239435-2f06-4419-8592-35cecae10edd

Josh's prompt and Grok's Response: https://x.com/i/grok/share/QObRjeEtsEl7d1G1BoWiPHjMy

AI Study Josh Referred to at the beginning: https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/

The non-X version of Grok and its response to the same prompt was similar because of the prompt: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw%3D%3D_2c5171be-08e9-425f-bda9-dcf04460c080

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00:00 Intro

02:11 How Should Christians Do Theology?

03:42 Why AI Prompts Matter

09:46 Grok’s Attempt to Refute the DoD

11:15 What Is the DoD Argument?

13:37 Grok Misunderstands the Internal Critique

23:28 Why People Abandon EDD When Challenged

28:34 Grok Misrepresents Tim on Decree vs. Providence

35:57 Grok Misuses Free Will in His Critique

37:02 Grok’s Assumptions About Classical Theism

39:03 The Real Issue: How Should We Use AI?

47:37 Josh Live-Demonstrates Prompt Sensitivity in Grok

53:33 AI Isn’t the Final Authority

57:45 The Tu Quoque Fallacy Explained

1:00:17 A FOURTEEN Step DoD for Clarification

1:04:22 Conclusion

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This was originally posted by  @TruthfulHope  and host Jacob Vazquez engages with Dr. Tim Stratton of ‪@FreethinkingMinistries‬ to explore significant theological issues surrounding free will, predestination, and the contrasting views of Calvinism, Arminianism, and Molinism. The conversation delves into the complexities of God's sovereignty and human freedom, highlighting the importance of understanding these concepts in the context of Christian faith. Tim shares his personal journey through various theological perspectives, ultimately arriving at Molinism, which emphasizes God's middle knowledge of all possible human choices. The discussion aims to clarify these intricate theological debates and their implications for believers.

Tim Stratton and Jacob also delve into the complexities of libertarian freedom, divine sovereignty, and the theological implications of Molinism. They explore how these concepts relate to the problem of evil, predestination, and key biblical passages, using pop culture references like the Avengers to illustrate their points. The discussion emphasizes the importance of systematic theology in understanding scripture and the nuances of divine knowledge and human choice.

Are you a Christian on the fence about celebrating our nation's independence day? Have no fear Tim and Josh are here to dissuade your fears and encourage you to CELEBRATE! Each give their Top 5 Reasons why Christians SHOULD celebrate the 4th of July!

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Ever thought of what Heaven might be like? Josh Klein and Thomas Moller jump into a bit "what if" in this episode. Josh and Thomas posit that heaven might be more like Sci-Fi than we think....

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Heaven and Science Fiction: https://freethinkingministries.com/heaven-and-science-fiction/

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FTMonthly is back with a special episode. This month Josh explores what theological label would best describe Dr.  @JordanBPeterson 's beliefs based on his own writings and public statements. Would one consider Peterson a Christian? Find out here.

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Josh and Tim's Experience at Dr. Peterson's "We Who Wrestle With God" event in Omaha, NE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqGiGExg6gg

Notes:

We Who Wrestle With God Book: https://a.co/d/fK9eN30

FreeThinking Ministries Book Review: https://freethinkingministries.com/we-who-wrestle-with-god-book-review/

Videos referenced:

https://youtu.be/QBEZhjnZTks?si=8NXEFGNI-B-QYIh8&t=2765

https://youtu.be/pGQnfIy0lx8?si=LAsWTCx7tlJDbH-J&t=747

https://youtu.be/oVDrbdBw6Bg?si=7EpKII5S1RrLAoqz&t=238

 https://www.dailywire.com/episode/crucifixion-and-resurrection

https://youtu.be/Hik6OY-nk4c?si=jXE4YxIqZJwaOLFU&t=7229

https://youtu.be/IUKLmspEWEc?si=PGMb5BMNYOeLP5pt&t=3608

CG Jung Quote: “Letter to the Rev. H.L. Philip,” 26 October 1956; Letters, II, 334-335

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This Month's FTMonthly is short and to the point as Josh will be leaving for Africa at the end of April. Enjoy!

Can progressive Christianity and conservative Christianity coexist? Josh doesn't think so and he explains why here:

Progressive Christianity is a Different Religion: https://freethinkingministries.com/progressing-to-what/

The New Cultural Christianity: https://freethinkingministries.com/the-new-cultural-christianity/

The Widening of God's Mercy Book Review: https://freethinkingministries.com/the-widening-of-gods-mercy-book-review/

Aliens and Progressivism FTMonthly Episode: https://youtu.be/5VC4MAICsNE

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