Fred Pearce is a prolific author and environmental journalist with fifteen extraordinary books under his belt, including the one which transformed my own perspective on invasive species "The New Wild".

In this conversation we discuss the numerous topics he has investigated, and probe the state of science journalism today.

Check out Fred's latest book "Despite it All" that finds hope among the chorus of climate catastrophism : https://www.amazon.com/Despite-All-Handbook-Climate-Hopefuls-ebook/dp/B0FT6GFTFP

My personal favourite "The New Wild" : https://www.amazon.com/New-Wild-Invasive-Species-Salvation-ebook/dp/B00N6PB69A/

And all his other titles here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001HMRS9Q

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Read Shane's book, Taming the Apocalypse, about the future of post industrial biological technology: https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/