Steven Johnson, author of 14 books on the history of science and technology, discusses Google’s new writing and research tool, NotebookLM. He elaborates on how walking influences creativity, the importance of play in innovation, and shares insights into using AI for augmenting thought and memory. The conversation covers his role in co-creating NotebookLM with Google Labs, the importance of uploading sources for effective use, and the potential of AI to enhance both authorship and readership. Johnson also touches on potential future developments, such as recommending additional sources and addressing privacy concerns. The dialogue highlights the revolutionary potential of AI-driven tools in research and content creation.

00:00 Introduction to Steven Johnson
00:20 The Role of Walking in Creativity
02:27 The Importance of Play and Uselessness
04:35 Notebook LM: A New Research Tool
07:02 The Genesis of Notebook LM
09:29 Building and Innovating at Google Labs
12:48 Using Notebook LM for Writing and Research
22:24 Exploring New Book Ideas with Notebook LM
25:27 Exploring AI's Role in Research
25:56 Future of AI in Recommending Sources
26:44 Tone and Style in AI Writing
29:20 Privacy and Copyright Concerns
30:26 AI's Impact on Writing and Creativity
36:05 New Forms of Reading and Books
40:29 Practical Tips for Using NotebookLM
44:34 Reflections on the Future of Authorship

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