Ryan Phelan and Ben Novak just completed a monumental project: they successfully cloned a black-footed ferret using cells that were preserved in the 1980s. In this episode, they sit down with Zach to discuss the science of cloning and the complex ethics of conservation.

Watch this conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bs-Dig7vb08

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