episode, Anthony and Alex discuss their shared passion for the environment and veterinary welfare. They explore Alex's childhood experiences in Zambia, the role of money in welfare and environmental issues, and the concept of diminishing returns in wealth and happiness. The conversation emphasizes the importance of justice in environmental impact, the role of vet work in bridging animal welfare and human ecology, and the need for holistic approaches to environmental issues. They also highlight the power of individual actions and the significance of natural capital in policy making, concluding with a vision for the future of veterinary green discussions.