The Heat Pump Podcast

The Future of Heat Pumps (Hint: It's Air-to-Water) - A Conversation with Ross Trethewey


Listen Later

Building the future of heat pump software? We're hiring a software engineer to help contractors measure homes faster and design systems more accurately. Check out our open role. https://info.amply.energy/sr-mobile-engineer-may-2025


Ready to design heat pump systems that actually work? Grab our free manual cold-climate heat pump selection tool — the same systematic approach that helps contractors like Robert get sizing right the first time: https://info.amply.energy/heat-pump-manual-s-free-tool

-------------------------------------------------

When Ross Trethewey calls heat pumps "magic boxes," he's not being hyperbolic. As the founder of TE2 Engineering and building engineer for PBS's This Old House, Ross has spent 15 years designing some of the most sophisticated HVAC systems in North America — from 7,000-square-foot custom homes to 45,000-square-foot compounds.


The Foundation: Design Before Installation, Every Time

Ross's approach starts with proper Manual J, S, and D calculations — something he believes every HVAC contractor should master, not just mechanical engineers. "For any HVAC contractor, they should be well equipped to be able to provide that level of information and run those calculations."


The Future is Air-to-Water

Of all heat pump technologies, Ross is betting big on air-to-water systems. "If I had to pick a horse in the race, 15 years from now, 20 years from now, I think it will be air-to-water."


His reasoning is compelling:

Future-proofing against refrigerant changes. As the industry moves from R-410A to R-32, 454B, and eventually to A3l refrigerants, air-to-water systems keep the refrigerant contained in the outdoor unit.


What Separates the Top 5%

The best HVAC contractors are family-owned businesses with multi-generational thinking, not private equity-owned companies focused on short-term returns.


These top-tier contractors:

-Invest heavily in training. Ross regularly gets out-of-office messages saying entire crews are at air-to-water heat pump training.

-Provide proper tools and support for their technicians.


Episode Timestamps:

[03:56] - Ross’s origin story: 5th-gen plumber to mechanical engineer to TV educator

[13:22] - Benefits of heat pumps vs. conventional systems

[18:48] - Challenges of going 100% heat pump in older homes (no fossil fuel backup)

[32:06] - What’s coming with air-to-water heat pumps to get higher temperature output

[42:46] - Heat recovery and system optimization

[54:11] - What separates top 5% HVAC contractors from the rest

[59:49] - Ross’s top recommended resources and final advice to HVAC pros


Follow Ross Trethewey

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosstrethewey/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rosstretheweytoh/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosstrethewey/?hl=en

Twitter: https://x.com/rosstret


Follow This Old House:

Company’s Website: https://www.thisoldhouse.com/

Company’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThisOldHouse

Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/this-old-house-ventures/

Company’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisoldhouse/

Company’s Twitter: https://x.com/ThisOldHouse

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/thisoldhouse


Follow TE2 Engineering:

Company’s Website: https://te2engineering.com/

Company’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TE2engineering/?ref=br_rs

Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/te2-engineering-llc./

Company’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/te2engineering/

Company’s Twitter: https://x.com/te2engineering

Company’s youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist


Follow the Hosts:

Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The Heat Pump PodcastBy Amply

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

11 ratings


More shows like The Heat Pump Podcast

View all
Planet Money by NPR

Planet Money

30,710 Listeners

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk by Don McDonald

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

749 Listeners

The Fine Homebuilding Podcast by Fine Homebuilding Magazine

The Fine Homebuilding Podcast

778 Listeners

HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs by Bryan Orr

HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

1,016 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

112,360 Listeners

Building HVAC Science by Bill Spohn

Building HVAC Science

74 Listeners

Everything Electric Podcast by The Fully Charged Show

Everything Electric Podcast

315 Listeners

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

9,800 Listeners

UnBuild It Podcast by Unbuild It Podcast

UnBuild It Podcast

230 Listeners

Volts by David Roberts

Volts

607 Listeners

Acquiring Minds by Will Smith

Acquiring Minds

254 Listeners

The Green Blueprint by Latitude Media

The Green Blueprint

207 Listeners

Catalyst with Shayle Kann by Latitude Media

Catalyst with Shayle Kann

274 Listeners

The Wirecutter Show by The New York Times

The Wirecutter Show

1,163 Listeners

Open Circuit by Latitude Media

Open Circuit

140 Listeners