Roy Abernathy is the EVP of Workplace Strategy and Human Experience at Newmark. He is known for his big-picture mindset and creative thinking.  

Today, we do some dreaming out loud around and explore concepts for the future of business and real estate. One of them: The 4-day workweek.

Towards the end of the episode, we learned that Roy went to veterinary school in college. You’ll be surprised when he shares with us exactly what a veterinarian can teach a designer.

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