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Here, John and I begin with an assessment of a sharp, thoughtful Quillette piece by black intellectual Aaron Hanna which is critical of black conservatives. (Both John and I have written responses which Quillette will publish.) This lead us into philosophical terrain, where we engage questions about free will, ethnic/racial differences in culture and so on. We go on to discuss critically a recent New York Times piece by Jenée Desmond-Harris, “Which Black People Should You Listen To?” Her answer, which we dispute: not people like us! We critically assess Thomas Sowell's "black rednecks" argument, that black culture reflects the legacy of Scotch-Irish norms common to Southern/Appalachian enclaves. And we agree to disagree about the merits of Charles Murray's new book, Facing Reality, where I find more merit than does John.

As always, I’m curious to know what you think.

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0:00 A peek inside Glenn’s writing process

3:31 Aaron Hana’s critique of Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele

13:50 Extending the presumption of free will to black communities

19:31 Who gets to opine on race matters?

32:09 Black rednecks

44:31 Is the “acting white” phenomenon real?

53:58 A critique of Charles Murray’s new book …

1:12:12 … and a defense of same

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A peek inside Glenn’s writing process ... Aaron Hana’s critique of Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele ... Extending the presumption of free will to Black communities ... Who gets to opine on race matters? ... Black rednecks ... Is the “acting white” phenomenon real? ... A critique of Charles Murray’s new book … ... … and a defense of same ...

How Charles deals with his notoriety ... Charles's new book, Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America ... Grappling with the fact of group disparities ... Threats from the left, threats from the right ... The shift in white attitudes toward race since the 1950s ... What would happen if white people revolted? ... Charles: Black people are not genetically inferior ... Why small differences in ability can have major consequences ... Charles: We need universal, not race-based, public policy solutions ...

Here is my conversation with Charles Murray (of The Bell Curve fame) about his new book, Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America. We review the argument of his book—that the "American Creed" of fair play and equal treatment for all is imperiled by a failure to reckon with the actual differences across racial groups in measured intelligence and participation in violent crime. We explore the evidence for his claim about racial differences, the extent to which these facts are being denied, and the plausibility of his concern that said denial threatens to undermine the republic. We also discuss the effectiveness of policy interventions aimed at reducing racial disparities.

As always, I’m curious to know what you think.

0:00 Intro

1:37 How Charles deals with his notoriety

5:26 Charles's new book, Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America

13:49 Grappling with the fact of group disparities

21:04 Threats from the left, threats from the right

27:33 The shift in white attitudes toward race since the 1950s

35:11 What would happen if white people revolted?

41:13 Charles: Black people are not genetically inferior

50:36 Why small differences in ability can have major consequences

54:29 Charles: We need universal, not race-based, public policy solutions

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John takes issue with antiracism in Princeton’s classics department ... Glenn: Black people should embrace and exceed institutional standards ... Meeting the challenge of academic performance ... Stepping outside yourself ... Glenn’s recent appearance on Tucker Carlson Today ... Glenn and John remember their fathers ...

Here’s my latest conversation with John McWhorter. Our talk ranges over a number of seemingly unrelated subjects. We discuss the decision by Princeton's classics department to stop requiring students to master Greek and Latin (which John sees as a lowering of standards). We analyze the general problem Black students face of deciding whether to "dispel" doubts about their abilities through outstanding performance on the tests, or to "dismiss" those doubts by rejecting the tests as intrinsically biased. We also talk about my appearance on Tucker Carlson's Fox News platform (which John had advised against). And we conclude, anticipating the upcoming Father’s Day celebrations, with some reflections on fatherhood.

0:00 Intro

1:30 John takes issue with antiracism in Princeton’s classics department

15:48 Glenn: Black people should embrace and exceed institutional standards

25:22 Meeting the challenge of academic performance

33:57 Stepping outside yourself

40:28 Glenn’s recent appearance on Tucker Carlson Today

51:14 Glenn and John remember their fathers

I need your help …

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Teodros's new book, Conversations with Cornel West ... Cornel offers spiritual counsel to Glenn ... Between commercialization and democratic decay ... Glenn: “The glass is way more than half-full” for Black Americans ... The centrality of Black music to Black experience ... Cornel’s Chekhovian Christianity ... What system, if any, can replace American capitalism? ... The meaning of 1776 ...

Last week, I have announced at Patreon that I’m moving the operation to Substack.

I gave every Patron a complimentary subscription for the first month. If you’re reading this, chances are you are such a person, with a comp that will run out on July 2. At that date, you will have to decide if you want to continue getting subscriber-only posts for $7/month or $70/year. I hope the things you’ll see in this first month will convince you to stay.

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This post is the first TGS episode published through Substack. It’s my conversation with noted philosopher and public intellectual Cornel West and philosopher Teodros Kiros.

We discuss their book, Conversations with Cornel West. Along the way we engage vigorously with one another on themes of religion, politics, aesthetics, identity, and nationalism. We find many points of agreement. It is a rich and intensive exchange.

Some timestamps:

0:00 Teodros's new book, Conversations with Cornel West

1:04 Cornel offers spiritual counsel to Glenn

11:06 Between commercialization and democratic decay

20:52 Glenn: “The glass is way more than half-full” for Black Americans

29:26 The centrality of Black music to Black experience

36:03 Cornel’s Chekhovian Christianity

43:40 What system, if any, can replace American capitalism?

56:42 The meaning of 1776

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I’m excited to embark on this new chapter with you!

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Larry's concerns about the debt-to-GDP ratio ... On the general relativity of fiscal language ... Why would anybody buy U.S. treasury bonds? ... Larry's defense of fiscal hawkishness ... A critique of Biden's COVID relief funding ... How to raise taxes while maintaining incentives to work ... There is no such thing as a corporation ...

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John's appearance on "Real Time with Bill Maher" ... Why John's 2000 book Losing the Race remains relevant today ... The "noble victim complex" ... The counterproductivity of victim narratives ... Where do you draw the line in calling out nonsense? ... Trading agency for victim status ... The exciting roster of upcoming TGS guests ...

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