How did the presidential pardon go from a tool of mercy to an expression of power? On this episode, Jeffrey Toobin joins Golden Age host Andrew Zucker to discuss the origins of pardons, Ford’s pardon of Nixon, and how pardons have evolved since then. Toobin dives into whether there was a pardon for presidency trade between Ford and Nixon, how Ford was swayed into the pardon, and who Trump might just pardon next.

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Suzy Weiss joins Andrew to break down the week’s wildest headlines, from Brigitte Macron’s viral slap to Trump’s crypto donor dinner and Jake Tapper’s bombshell book on Biden. They get into why Democrats can’t quit their aging leaders, what Trump’s war on Harvard signals for higher ed, and why AI means the return of the blue book. Plus, can the new Joe Rogan be manufactured?

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Andrew talks to John McCarthy, former political advisor to President Biden and liaison to the Catholic Church, about Pope Leo XIV, the first American pope in history. McCarthy explains why the election of Pope Leo XIV surprised some Vatican watchers, what his name signals about his priorities, and how his papacy could continue Francis’s legacy. They also discuss the Church’s growing engagement with global policymakers and, of course, the new Pope’s brothers.

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Andrew chats with Substack co-founder Hamish McKenzie for a conversation on how Substack became one of the most consequential media platforms of the last decade. They discuss the origins of the company's subscription-first model, why owning your audience relationship is the future, and AI’s role in journalism. Hamish also opens up about what it was like working at Tesla under Elon Musk, how Substack responded when Musk tried to buy the company (and later tried to "nuke" it), and where the platform goes from here (hint: it’s not just a text-based platform).

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This week, Andrew sits down with cultural writer and go-to youth whisperer Casey Lewis to unpack all things Gen Z. They dive into how TikTok has become Gen Z’s de facto news outlet, why Elon Musk still has a loyal fanbase, and how Gen Z’s political shift could reshape the next decade. Plus: the weirdest new Gen Alpha trend you haven’t heard about yet. 

Molly Jong-Fast joins Andrew for a high-speed journey through the state of American politics. MJF weighs in on Pete Hegseth, Elon Musk's cuts, and the El Salvador deportations. She also shares initial thoughts on the primary field in 2028 and whether the Dems can hold onto the House and take the Senate in 2026. Plus, she shares a preview of her upcoming memoir. 

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Andrew Zucker is joined by Axios reporter Alex Isenstadt, author of Revenge, for a conversation about his book and previously unreported stories from Trump’s comeback campaign. Isenstadt reveals the remarkable moments following the assasination attempt in Butler, the unique way Elon Musk convinced Trump to pick J.D. Vance as VP, and the late Brooklyn political boss who shapes Trump's rhetoric.

Andrew is joined by Oliver Darcy, the founder and author of Status, a nightly newsletter covering the media industry. Oliver breaks down the WHCA’s responses to attacks on press freedom—most recently pulling comic Amber Ruffin from roasting at the WHCD. They also dive into how a recession could hurt media companies, the various threats facing newsrooms, and the one media mogul who has it out for Status.