David Gornoski and Surit Dasgupta open this wide-ranging conversation with a deep dive into the thought of Nikolai Berdyaev and the radical witness of Mother Maria of Paris, highlighting why creative, sacrificial action is essential to the life of the Church today.

From there, the discussion turns to the cultural fallout of divorce, examining how fractured family life shapes society and why the Church must courageously reaffirm what Jesus taught about marriage, not as a burden, but as a life-giving vocation rooted in love, fidelity, and freedom.

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