In this episode of The Great Guns Podcast, James sits down with Matt Clayton, a US Navy veteran who’s moved into coaching, fitness, and mental resilience.
Matt shares the real story — joining the military instead of taking football scholarship offers, attempting the SEAL pipeline, life on a ship, and then landing in a riverine squadron where things got properly hands-on: fast boats, weapons, and becoming a marksman and coach for others.
From there, the conversation shifts into the grit behind the scenes: being forced out due to manpower decisions, building a life post-uniform, bodybuilding and coaching, and why motivation is temporary — resilience is what keeps you showing up.
This one’s honest, practical, and packed with lines that’ll hit home if you’re navigating transition, pressure, or that quiet struggle that doesn’t show up on Instagram.
Key Takeaways
- Mindset beats talent when things get hard. The body can be ready — but if the mind isn’t, you’ll fold.
- Transition can be forced. Even if it’s not your choice, you can still choose your response and your next move.
- Motivation fades. Resilience stays. The goal is showing up even when the hype dies.
- Resilience can be tiny wins. Sometimes “getting to the shop” is the win — and that counts.
- Watch the warning signs. Sleep deprivation, gambling, alcohol, obsessive spirals — they don’t always look like “mental health” at first.
- Accountability isn’t always a sledgehammer. Sometimes you need a scalpel. Sometimes you rebuild the whole structure.
- Get your admin squared away before you leave. Medical documentation and appointments matter more than you think.
Soundbites:- “Motivation is temporary.”
- “I don’t wanna be f*ing motivated.”
- “Resilience is… no matter what’s going on, I’m gonna show up.” Interview
- “Even if that’s just going to the f*ing grocery store… that could be a win.”
- “Doing whatever it takes to feel like you’ve got a W for that day — that’s resilience.”
- “No early checkouts.”
Connect with Matt:
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