"Wayfinding is the cognitive and corporeal process and experience of locating, following, or discovering a route through and to a given space. It involves both thinking and physically moving through space. It isn't about signs, it's about HOW people navigate from Point A to Point B. It involves: orientation, route decision, route monitoring, and designation recognition" (travelwayfinding.com).

On today's show, Spiritual Director, Deborah Gregory, author of "Spiritual Wayfinding: 33 Walking Meditations for Navigating Life with Embodied Wisdom," shares how a fractured ankle taught her to walk, both physically and spiritually, with God in fresh, new ways. She's named each of her 33 walks and invites us to experience the childlike wonder of silly walks, the freedom of yuck walks, the power of Poohstick walks, and so much more!

Grab your tennis shoes and walk into a whole new way of finding God's love in your world.

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"Most days in Jesus' life were ordinary. Most of ours, too."

-Amy Lauren Peeler

This week's guest, Amy Peeler, author of Ordinary Time: The Season of Growth, writes, "Normal is necessary. And routines are for things that bear repeating. The church calendar is marked by feasts and fasts, by holy days and special seasons. But more than half the church year is marked by what the church has called Ordinary Time, a period where we grow and mature in Christ."

I know for a fact that I underestimate the value of ordinary time. I live for "the next big trip" or "next big event." Or at least I used to. Today my guest, Amy Peeler, shares the great value and necessity of embracing the ordinary.

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In this bonus episode, No Hint of Shame, Janell shares a powerful, hope-filled conversation with Dr. Curt Thompson, author of "Anatomy of the Soul" and "The Soul of Shame." Dr. Thompson's work + message have been pivotal in Janell's emotional healing, so it is with great joy she brings his healing message to you. Dr. Thompson writes, "Where shame attempts to push us into static inertia, love bids us to move." For this episode, find an hour, prepare a quiet space, and be sure to bring tissues. You are about to receive the power of resurrection and live into a new story where there is NO HINT OF SHAME. 

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What does it mean to restory your life? Mary DeMuth, literary agent, author, and podcaster, joins us today to talk about her newest book, Restory Your Life: How Jesus Reframes Your Past, Rewrites Your Present, and Redefines Your Future.

Mary writes, "Maybe your story feels too messy. Maybe the wounds of your past still haunt you, keeping you stuck in cycles of pain, regret, or doubt. Or maybe you’re just exhausted―longing for purpose and meaning but unsure of how to move forward. But what if the very parts of your story you’d rather forget are the ones God wants to redeem?"

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"What if fruitfulness wasn't something you had to strive for? What if it ripened naturally from a life rooted in the True Vine?"

-Bette Dickinson, The Art of Vinemaking: Spiritual Flourishing in a Productivity-Driven Culture

In a culture that equates fruitfulness with productivity, The Art of Vinemaking offers a countercultural invitation: to move at the pace of abiding rather than striving.

Join Bette Dickinson as she guides us into a vineyard where we learn the life-giving rhythms from the vine itself.

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Ned Bustard, author of St. Patrick the Forgiver, joins us today to share about the fascinating life of the real St. Patrick and to help us discover a remarkable story of love and forgiveness.

As we move through the Lenten season, it is important to pause and ask, "What makes forgiveness so difficult, and is it even possible?"

Ned Bustard says, "Forgiveness is a gift. It is our calling. It is our job. We can't love if we can't forgive."

St. Patrick teaches us that it is "only by the strength of Heaven" that we can ever forgive.

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Ever feel the ground shift under your feet and wonder how to keep standing? We sit down with author and pastor Courtney Ellis, author of Looking Up: A Birder's Guide to Hope Through Grief, to explore a surprising guide to hope: birds. From mockingbirds that remix the sounds of the neighborhood to sparrows that sing through storms, we unpack how creation itself teaches us to live with uncertainty, grieve honestly, and find rest without checking out of real life.

Courtney shares why not knowing can be merciful, especially when our brains crave a full map we’re not built to carry. We talk about spiritual practices that keep us present—taking the next small step, looking up instead of spiraling, and honoring the quiet work that rarely trends. Sparrows become a lens for ordinary dignity in a world chasing peacock shine and platform pressure. If you’ve ever felt invisible, her reminder that “God sees” lands like water in dry soil.

This is a warm, grounded conversation for anyone navigating grief, change, or the relentless hum of “do more.” If you’re craving presence over performance, mercy over mastery, and a faith sturdy enough for uncertain days, press play. If this resonates, share it with a friend, subscribe to new episodes, and leave a review to help others find our community.

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What if the simple practice of looking out your window could change the way you carry grief? We sit down with Pastor Courtney Ellis, author of Looking Up: A Birder's Guide to Hope Through Grief," to explore how everyday birdwatching becomes a practice of attention that steadies the soul, awakens faith, and gently leads us toward hope. From the first "spark bird" that turns curiosity into a habit, to the quiet patience of waiting for wings to appear, we trace a path that’s grounded, embodied, and surprisingly accessible—even for restless minds.

Courtney opens up about losing her grandfather and how choosing to be a granddaughter before a professional reshaped her approach to mourning. Together, we name the cultural gap around grief and offer kinder rituals for moving through loss without rushing past it. Along the way, birds become teachers: vultures as tender witnesses and “priests of the wild,” goldfinches as bright messengers in hard seasons, and even city pigeons as underrated icons of resilience and beauty. Poetry from Wendell Berry and Mary Oliver weaves through the conversation, adding language that can hold both sorrow and joy.

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A quiet lie can steer a whole life. We sat down with Pastor Gary Thomas, author of Living the Life You Were Reborn to Live: Dismantling 12 Lies That Rob Your Intimacy with God, to name the deceptions that slip into our thinking, even inside church walls, and to rebuild a vision of intimacy with God that can weather real storms. From the first moments, we trace how distraction has become the pattern of our age and why a renewed mind is the only way back to delight, trust, and fruitful obedience.

Gary takes us behind his new book and the intentional choice of the word “dismantling”—a call to active agency in pulling down structures that block spiritual growth. We explore how small, untested myths shape daily choices, then map that insight onto spiritual half-truths that leave us frustrated with God. The conversation turns tender and bold when we address “family first.” Jesus warned that allegiance to him can divide households; anchoring identity in the Father’s love frees us from chasing validation in our children’s responses and equips us to love without bargaining. That shift releases unnecessary shame and restores the courage to hold truth with humility.

We also dive into control and the lost art of spiritual adventure. When we surrender outcomes and stay alert to the Spirit’s movement, God often uses surprising agents to answer our prayers. Finally, we reframe peace. It isn’t situational—stacked on health, money, and harmony—but relational, grounded in the presence of Christ who holds us when the house shakes. If fear imagines futures without God, peace remembers who is with us right now. 

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Stephanie Watson, author and founder of "The Table," shares from her new book, Ruth's Need for a Redeemer: A Bible Study on Loss, Loyalty, and Unexpected Love. 

We linger on Ruth’s crossroads moment: return to what’s familiar, or risk the unknown with God. It’s the same decision we all might face when our Moab feels safe, but our Bethlehem is calling. 

In Part 2, we pick up our conversation with Stephanie Watson, author of Ruth's Need for a Redeemer, to explore Ruth’s bold decision to cling to Ruth—not to her own comfort, and to cling to God’s promises lived through Naomi’s life. The scene is raw: Naomi urges a return, grief narrowing her vision; Orpah turns back. Ruth stays, and that single act reframes what healthy attachment looks like in a world that often confuses strength with self-sufficiency.

Press play for a fresh, grounded take on choice, grief, community, and redemption. If this resonates, share it with a friend, start a table, and leave a rating and review to help others find the show. What are you clinging to today?

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