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We're gonna get right into it today with two of Canada's top housing experts to explore the market and navigate our way through what many feel is now out of reach, or worse, a sector in crisis.

With us today is John Webster, who previously appeared on the pod and ranks the second most listened to episode after our conversation with Seamus O'Regan. John is an innovator in the housing economy and currently President and CEO of Scotia Mortgage Authority. We're also joined by Ron Butler, founder of Butler Mortgage, smart as a whip, with unparalleled experience servicing clients in the housing market.

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