Our first episode for 2025 is live from Ngāmotu, at Te Matatini o te Kāhui Maunga. We look at one of the new teams to Te Matatini, Te Uri o Manumanu, and Julian Wilcox is joined by the Te Matatini chair, Tā Herewini Parata, chief judge Dr Turuhira Hare, and Taranaki leader Liana Poutu.