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When talking about climate change, it's easy to get caught up in the scientific terms. Carbon emissions, parts per million, global average temperature, etc. But I always want to make sure I'm framing this conversation in the human impacts that result from the crisis. That's why I wanted to have Sharon Lerner back on the show this week. Sharon Lerner is a journalist and author at ProPublica, where she cover health and the environment and the agencies that govern them, including the Environmental Protection Agency. Her recent piece is "Trump's Anti-Green Agenda Could Lead to 1.3 Million More Climate Deaths. The Poorest Countries Will Be Impacted Most." Lerner and experts conducted an analysis of how the Trump Administration's expansion of fossil fules and rolback of clean enegy and other climate initiatives would impact people around the globe. In this conversation, she explains how that modeling was conducted, what areas of the Global South will be impacted the most, and the questions on impacts that remain unanswered. Lerner also discusses the differences in covering this Trump Administration versus the president's first term and we explore some of the more popular talking points being used against climate action.

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