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June 11, 2018 Episode 126: The Necessity of Christian Artists (with Andrew Peterson)
“Stories are the language God wired our hearts to speak.” Singer-songwriter and author Andrew Peterson joins us this week to talk about art and why Christians who don’t consider themselves artists, need artists. Whether or not you think of yourself as someone who is creative (which you are), you’ll benefit from this important conversation.
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June 11, 2018 Episode 126: The Necessity of Christian Artists (with Andrew Peterson)
“Stories are the language God wired our hearts to speak.” Singer-songwriter and author Andrew Peterson joins us this week to talk about art and why Christians who don’t consider themselves artists, need artists. Whether or not you think of yourself as someone who is creative (which you are), you’ll benefit from this important conversation.

Who is Our Guest?

Andrew Peterson is a recording artist, songwriter, producer, filmmaker, publisher and award-winning author of The Wingfeather Saga series. Find Andrew’s music, books, and more at andrew-peterson.com.

Episode Links
Andrew’s newest album is Resurrection Letters: Volume 1andrew-peterson.com. Find the album and his other creative works at .

Also, Andrew mentioned the article he wrote for The Rabbit Room, Everybody’s a “Creative”, as well as J.R.R. Tolkien’s On Fairy Stories.

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Isaac:
With me today is singer-songwriter and author Andrew Peterson. Most recently, Andrew has released the album Resurrection Letters Volume One, which is very good by the way. My wife and I listen to that. Anyways, it’s great to have you on the show today, Andrew.
Andrew:
Thank you for having me.
Isaac:
First of all, what are a few things you could say about yourself, possibly sort of your brief testimony, how you came to faith in Jesus?
Andrew:
Sure. It’s a complicated and a long answer, so it will take a half hour, is that okay?
Isaac:
If you can fit an hour into half an hour, then there we go.
Andrew:
Okay, sure. No. I grew up in the church. My dad is a pastor, which is why it’s such a complicated answer, because I feel like it was a long string of breadcrumbs that led me to Jesus. There were several really salient moments in my youth.
The simplest answer is that I was baptized when I was nine, and I remember that I was sitting in church as a little boy listening to my dad preach like I always did, and for some reason, I don’t know … what I remember about is that I just felt this compulsion, this inner compulsion to answer the call. He would always kind of stand in front of the podium at the end of the sermon and offer an invitation, and we would all sing Just as I Am10 times.
And my 10-year-old explanation for it would be that I knew that I was broken and that I was lost, and that Jesus was my only hope. That hasn’t changed. That’s the same way that I would put it now.
But then, of course, high school, I was a terror and I was an awful person in so many ways, and just didn’t really consider Jesus an important part of my life even though I would have told you I was a Christian.
And then the next big moment that I remember was encountering the music of Rich Mullins. I had been in a rock band for a year post-high school and was just mainly interested in music and girls, and then just had this weird encounter with God through this music.
Rich’s music just caught my attention because it was so honest.
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June 04, 2018 Episode 125: The Art of Listening to Scripture
The Reformation brought Bibles into the hands of everyday people (so good!), but did we then lose the art of listening to Scripture? We’re joined with Jonathan Bailey this week to talk about this. He and his brother are releasing Dwell, a new smartphone app that makes listening to Scripture easy and beautiful.
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June 04, 2018 Episode 125: The Art of Listening to Scripture
The Reformation brought Bibles into the hands of everyday people (so good!), but did we then lose the art of listening to Scripture? We’re joined with Jonathan Bailey this week to talk about this. He and his brother are releasing Dwell, a new smartphone app that makes listening to Scripture easy and beautiful.

Who is Our Guest?

Jonathan R. Bailey is a Serial Entrepreneur and serves in the area of Christian Spiritual Formation. He is Co-founder at Dwell, which is a forthcoming app that is completely reimagining Scripture listening. The app seeks to help Christians worldwide cultivate a habit of listening to the most important book in history: the Bible.

Episode Links
The Dwell app comes out at the end of this month (June 2018)! Make sure to check out the main site for more.

Also, check out jonathanrbailey.com for more from Jonathan.

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Isaac:
With me today is Jonathan Bailey. Jonathan is a serial entrepreneur, which is awesome, and serves in the area of Christian spiritual formation. It’s great to have you with us today, Jonathan.
Jonathan:
Hey, thanks so much for having me. Appreciate it.
Isaac:
Some of us, and including myself, we don’t know you. Perhaps, share your brief testimony so we can just know you a bit more.
Jonathan:
Yeah, sure. Well, I think at my core, I’m someone who’s always loved to create things. My brother and I we’re actually identical twins and so we both get the chance to work together and we’ve created three companies over the last 10 or so years. It’s just something we love to do. We grew up in the North Texas area in Dallas. Just had a chance to really create some really cool products for people, especially focused in the Christian space and the church space. That’s been really great, but we grew up as pastor’s kids. There’s good and bad that comes with that, right?
You know, while I didn’t get to see my dad as much as maybe I wanted to, I did get to enjoy the privileges and responsibilities that came with having this big church sanctuary open to us. So we’d have BB gun wars in the church sanctuary. Our friends would come up and we would terrorize the instruments and have our own personal concert set up on stage and so it was fun, you know? But, my dad started this church out of his house in the early nineties and I think my brother and I had the good fortune to be able to watch him start something from scratch. I think that built in us this entrepreneurial sense like, “Hey, we could do this too,” and so it was like this genesis point for us. We’ve just been starting things I guess ever since.
Isaac:
Yeah, no. That’s awesome. So you say you started these three companies, organizations. Can you share with us what maybe those are?
Jonathan:
Yeah, absolutely. The first one was called gracewaymedia.com which I think now has been renamed into Igniter Media. But it was a place that pastors and church leaders could go to find all types of church and ministry graphics for whether it’s their screen or the service. We started that I think it was early 2000s maybe 2005, 2006 and had a great run with the company. After about six or seven years, we sold it to another great group and then my brother and I start...
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May 28, 2018 Episode 124: Transgenderism Pt. 2
The media doesn’t usually emphasize (or ever even state) the negative findings when it comes to the research of transgender people. The reality is, the findings are striking. Sure, the short-term effects of say, people who follow through with sex-reassignment surgery, are good, but what about the long-term effects? With us again this week is pastor and…
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May 28, 2018 Episode 124: Transgenderism Pt. 2
The media doesn’t usually emphasize (or ever even state) the negative findings when it comes to the research of transgender people. The reality is, the findings are striking. Sure, the short-term effects of say, people who follow through with sex-reassignment surgery, are good, but what about the long-term effects? With us again this week is pastor and researcher Paul Dirks to talk about some of these facts. We also talk about how we, as Christians, can better engage with those who share differing beliefs with us.

Who is Our Guest?

Paul Dirks is the Lead Pastor of New West Community Church. He lives in the neighbourhood of Sapperton with his wife Rachel, and his five children. He came to know Christ at a young age through the godly influence of his parents and thinks that such a conversion is as exciting as any. Paul has a big smile and loud laugh. He enjoys basketball, history and music. Paul loves preaching and teaching and enjoys books by John Piper, CS Lewis and GK Chesterton.

Episode Links
Make sure to check out Paul’s YouTube channel in which he goes in depth on different transgender studies. Also, take a look at WomanMeansSomething.com. Again, tons of information.

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Isaac:
With me again today is Pastor Paul Dirks. If you weren’t here last week, you wouldn’t know that Paul is a husband, a father, and a local church pastor in New Westminster, which is close to Vancouver in B.C., Canada. He’s also the founder of Woman Means Something. Anyways, thanks again for being here today, Paul.
Paul:
Yeah, great to be back with you again, Isaac.
Isaac:
You know, it was made evident by the end of our last conversation that we really hadn’t really, you know, gotten into some of the facts of what you studied regarding transgenderism, which we said we would get into. So … you know, and we also didn’t touch on other few questions that I had hoped to ask you. So that’s what this conversation is all about.
Now, if you’re listening and you didn’t hear last week’s conversation, definitely go check it out. It’s almost a must if you want to understand kind of fully the full picture of where Paul is coming from personally. He kind of shares a bit of his story and what he’s been up to, but also what we are addressing in today’s conversation.
But anyways, before we jump into that, very briefly, for those who don’t know you, Paul, can you just take a minute or so to explain who you are?
Paul:
Yeah, sure, Isaac. Yeah, I’m a husband and a father as you mentioned, but most importantly, I’m a saint in Christ Jesus who has redeemed me. That’s my ultimate identity. And … but also, somebody who has done a lot of research and reading on sexual issues, gender issues, and so, yeah. Some of your listeners will know that I went to the Senate to present on Bill C-16. But I also do a lot of training on these issues, trying to bring some clarity, not only from a Christian standpoint, but also trying to clarify for people what the literature, you know, the peer-reviewed, secular literature says about some of these topics, because of some of the bias and obfuscation that goes on in the media with not carefully representing what’s in the literature.
Isaac:
Yeah, definitely. No,
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May 21, 2018 Episode 123: Transgenderism Pt. 1
In this week’s conversation, Paul helps us understand some of the terms used in the general transgender issue, as well talks about his personal story in how he got involved. Paul also helps us think biblically about the transgender issue.
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May 21, 2018 Episode 123: Transgenderism Pt. 1
“Transgender community goes face to face with pastor opposing parts of bill c-16.” This is the title of a CBC news story from last year. This week (and next week) we chat with the pastor referred to here – pastor Paul Dirks. In this week’s conversation, Paul helps us understand some of the terms used in the general transgender issue, as well talks about his personal story in how he got involved. Paul also helps us think biblically about the transgender issue.

Who is Our Guest?

Paul Dirks is the Lead Pastor of New West Community Church. He lives in the neighbourhood of Sapperton with his wife Rachel, and his five children. He came to know Christ at a young age through the godly influence of his parents and thinks that such a conversion is as exciting as any. Paul has a big smile and loud laugh. He enjoys basketball, history and music. Paul loves preaching and teaching and enjoys books by John Piper, CS Lewis and GK Chesterton.

Episode Links
Make sure to check out Paul’s YouTube channel in which he goes in depth on different transgender studies. Also, take a look at WomanMeansSomething.com. Again, tons of information.

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Isaac:
With me today is Paul Dirks. Paul is a husband. He’s a father. He’s a local church pastor, and I found out yesterday he’s a musician as well, which is awesome. Paul is also the founder of Woman Means Something, which we’ll get into in a bit. Anyways, thanks for being here with me today, Paul.
Paul:
Yeah. It’s my privilege. Thank you so much, Isaac.
Isaac:
Before we jump into this topic, and I do want to spend a lot of time on this topic, but I think it’s important just for people that have never heard of you, who are you? Maybe what’s your brief kind of testimony? How’d you come to faith?
Paul:
Thank you. Yeah. I grew up in a Christian home where God was glorified and His word upheld, attended Fellowship Baptist churches. That’s a bit of my theological heritage. Yeah, I came to know Christ from an early age. I remember I had two kind of main pastors that served in our church for quite some time in my late childhood and adolescence. I remember that one of those men, Jack Purdy, was preaching on I think it was a Sunday evening. I went home at a young age, I think probably around five years of age, realizing there is something that I was being called to that I hadn’t yet done.
I remember kneeling with my mother and asking the Lord Jesus to have my life and asking for the forgiveness of my sins. The Lord’s been with me since then. I’m so thankful for the rich heritage I have.
I know there’s a lot of people that don’t have that same kind of benefit and upbringing. I’ve always had a bit of an idea from an early age that to those whom much is given, much is expected. It’s a privilege, although I never really saw it coming in the early years that … Now I get to serve the body of Christ as a pastor and that’s a privilege as well, of course, as being the leader of my little flock at home of five kids with my beautiful wife, Rachel.
Isaac:
That’s so awesome. That’s really good. As I consider people listening to this across the country and even around the world, you pastor in this place called New Westminster.
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May 14, 2018 Episode 122: The Riot and the Dance of Creation
Dr. Gordon Wilson, joins us this week to talk about the film The Riot and the Dance which he narrates. We talk about the film, if animals are sinful, general revelation, and how the gospel is seen in nature.
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May 14, 2018 Episode 122: The Riot and the Dance of Creation
Creation was a dance (and still is in many ways), but now it’s a riot. If you didn’t already know, there’s a new nature documentary out that finally gives credit to where credit is due: God. Christian biologist, Dr. Gordon Wilson, joins us this week to talk about the film The Riot and the Dance which he narrates. We talk about the film, if animals are sinful, general revelation, and how the gospel is seen in nature.

Who is Our Guest?

Dr. Gordon Wilson is a Senior Fellow of Natural History, responsible for the College’s Natural History Colloquium and science electives. He received his Ph.D. from George Mason University in Environmental Science and Public Policy in 2003. Dr. Wilson and wife Meredith have four children and growing collection of grandchildren.

Episode Links
Check out The Riot and the Dance.

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Isaac
With me today is Dr. Gordon Wilson. Gordon is a senior fellow of natural history at New St. Andrew’s College in Idaho, and among other degrees, Gordon has his PhD in environmental science and public policy from George Mason University.
Anyways, it’s great to have you with us today, Gordon.
Dr. Wilson:
Thank you for having me, Isaac. It’s great to be here.
Isaac:
We start every conversation like this. Just before we jump into the subject, who are you? What are a few things you can tell us about yourself that would allow us to know you a little bit better, maybe how you came to know Jesus?
Dr. Wilson:
Well, I grew up in a very, very strong Christian family. My dad, after he got out of the navy which was before I was born, just 24/7 Christian. Both my mom and my dad had a great relationship. A peaceful home. Never saw any ugly fights or anything. They had disagreements, but they also resolved them peacefully. My dad, after he got out of the navy, he was an evangelist in Christian literature, so the gospel saturated the home, and good, firm discipline, good, loving discipline, and around six years old, I came under conviction after stealing my brother’s quarter, and at the dinner table, it was announced, “Doug is missing a quarter.” And I sort of twisted the story to look like I was the hero. The, “I think I know where it is.”
So, I retrieved the quarter, and then received a spanking because I was lying about it. I stole the quarter. I wasn’t just being the hero of the day and retrieving it.
But anyway, then after the spanking, received the gospel, and prayed the prayer as they say on the bottom of the basement steps which is where all of our justice was meeted out on our heine. But, that was probably about ’67, somewhere in there, 1967.
So, that’s a brief testimony, and just grew up in a wonderful, Christian home and realized that man, as I’ve grown up and met many, many Christians, some with similar backgrounds, some came to the Lord later in life and have very, very gnarly backgrounds, I’m very grateful for what I received.
Isaac:
That’s so good.
Now, Gordon, I did some digging. It wasn’t too much digging, but I did find out that you wrote your dissertation on the eastern box turtle, so really-
Dr. Wilson:
One facet of it. There’s a lot to be known about the eastern box turtle, and I studied under, you could say turtle Jedi-master, Dr. Carl Ernst at George Mason, and got to work on probably one of my favourite animals in the world just because I grew...
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