The Interviews

Lane Grindle of the Brewers Radio Network joins Jim, Matt, and Molly to discuss Freddy Peralta, his favorite Bob Uecker memories, a potential lock out, and much more!

ESPN Packers reporter Rob Demovsky joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy to give a clear, insider breakdown of the Jonathan Gannon hire, why the Packers moved fast, and how Matt LaFleur is reshaping his coaching staff in a pivotal offseason.

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The segment opens with Demovsky answering the biggest question Packers fans have been asking since the news broke:

Was Jonathan Gannon the Packers’ top choice — or did they rush and settle?

Rob explains that Gannon was going to be a defensive coordinator somewhere, and Green Bay believed they could not wait any longer without risking losing him to another team. That urgency came at the cost of not interviewing Jim Leonhard, who would have been available later — a decision that strongly suggests Gannon was always the Packers’ preferred candidate.

🏈 Why Matt LaFleur liked Jonathan Gannon

Demovsky outlines the specific traits LaFleur valued:

Gannon has already sat in the head-coach chair, even if the Arizona stint failed

His defenses have generated elite pass-rush pressure, highlighted by 70 sacks with the Eagles in 2022

He views defense from the secondary forward, similar to Jeff Hafley

LaFleur found Gannon difficult to scheme against when preparing game plans

The takeaway: this wasn’t a desperation move — it was a targeted hire based on experience and scheme fit.

🔄 The Jim Leonhard reality

Rob pushes back on the assumption that Leonhard was passed over unfairly. In his view:

If Leonhard were the top choice, the Packers would have waited

Moving quickly confirms Gannon sat atop the board

Timing and urgency mattered more than local familiarity

The decision trades comfort and popularity for league-wide demand — a risk LaFleur was willing to take.

🧠 What’s happening with the rest of the staff

The conversation then shifts to coaching dominoes:

Adam Stenavich interviewing in Tennessee

The possibility of internal promotions vs outside hires

Whether LaFleur’s history of waiting too long to move on from assistants is repeating

Which Packers assistants Jeff Hafley might take with him to Miami

Demovsky notes that LaFleur often delays staff decisions until forced, citing the Mo Drayton situation as precedent — and suggests changes on offense could still be coming.

🏟️ Rich Bisaccia’s misunderstood role

Rob addresses fan frustration with Rich Bisaccia, explaining that:

His value inside the building is far greater than fans realize

He is respected as a former head coach and locker-room presence

His “associate head coach” title is largely about mentorship and leadership, not play-calling

Demovsky is clear:

Bisaccia isn’t secretly running game decisions — he’s a stabilizing influence for a young coaching staff.

🎤 That viral Jonathan Gannon audio

The segment reacts to the widely circulated clip of Gannon’s motivational speech.

Rob shares what he’s heard from reporters who covered Gannon in Arizona:

He’s outspoken and opinionated

Not a cliché-spitting coach

More polished as a coordinator than as a head coach

Demovsky doesn’t see the clip as damaging — just evidence that Gannon is comfortable being himself, even if it comes off awkward in isolation.

⚖️ The bottom line

Rob Demovsky leaves listeners with a grounded conclusion:

Jonathan Gannon was in demand

The Packers prioritized experience and urgency

Staff changes aren’t finished

And Matt LaFleur is clearly trying to evolve his leadership approach

This hire won’t be judged by press conferences or viral clips — it will be judged by discipline, pass rush, and late-game defense.

🎧 A must-listen breakdown of Green Bay’s most important coaching decision of the offseason — with real context, not speculation — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.

ESPN NFL Nation Packers reporter Rob Demovsky joins Wilde and Tausch as the Green Bay Packers continue the search for a new defensive coordinator and speculation continues on the future of offensive coordinator Adam Stenavich and special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia. Is the DC role Jim Leonhard's job to lose?

It’s Friday, which means a wide-ranging, big-picture conversation — and Craig Karmazin joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy to tackle two of the most emotionally charged topics in Wisconsin sports right now: Giannis Antetokounmpo’s frustration with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Brewers trading Freddie Peralta.

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The segment blends perspective, patience, and realism — pushing back on panic while acknowledging just how uncomfortable things feel in both locker rooms.

🏀 Giannis’ frustration: transparency or warning sign?

The conversation opens with Giannis repeatedly calling out teammates for not playing hard, not sharing the ball, and not competing at a high enough level. Craig explains why this moment feels different than anything Giannis has faced before:

This is the first time in his prime the Bucks have been this far down the standings

Previous “adversity” meant being 3rd or 4th in the conference — not 11th

Giannis has never dealt with this much sustained struggle as the guy

Craig frames Giannis’ comments not as diva behavior, but as fierce competitiveness colliding with unfamiliar failure. He argues adversity either forges great teams — or exposes bad ones — and this stretch will determine which version the Bucks truly are.

🧠 Why panic is premature

Despite the frustration, Craig urges perspective:

Giannis has never asked out

The Bucks have never signaled they’re trading him

Media volume doesn’t equal organizational intent

He pushes back on national voices claiming a trade is imminent, reminding listeners that actions matter more than talk — and Giannis’ actions still point toward commitment, not escape.

🎯 Two possible endings — both interesting

Craig lays out a rare scenario where both outcomes are compelling:

Option 1:

The Bucks rally from 11th, make the Play-In, push into the playoffs, and prove that adversity strengthened them. That would require massive growth, accountability, and cohesion — and would be one of the most impressive runs of Giannis’ career.

Option 2:

The Bucks miss the playoffs — but own their draft pick in one of the most top-heavy NBA drafts in years, potentially landing a franchise-altering talent.

Either way, Craig argues this isn’t a dead-end situation — it’s a fork in the road.

⚾ Brewers trade Freddie Peralta: logic vs emotion

The conversation then pivots to baseball, where Craig reacts to the Brewers trading Freddie Peralta.

He admits initial disappointment, explaining why Peralta felt like:

A rotation anchor

A clubhouse leader

The successor to Willy Adames’ emotional presence

Craig says if the Brewers’ farm system were thin, the move would be indefensible. But with the system already ranked top-tier in baseball, he understands the logic — even if it makes the team less likely to win a World Series in 2026.

🌱 Trust the process… but feel the loss

Craig acknowledges the emotional side fans are feeling:

Losing a reliable ace hurts

Pitching depth was tested hard early last season

A Peralta start brought stability every fifth day

But he also reminds listeners that nearly every time fans doubted a Brewers pitching trade — Corbin Burnes included — the front office ended up being right.

The trade may not feel good — but it may still be smart.

⚖️ The bottom line

Craig closes with balance:

Giannis’ frustration is understandable — not alarming

The Bucks are still writing this season’s story

The Brewers remain competitive, even if the ceiling dips

Wisconsin sports are in a moment of transition, not collapse

Sometimes adversity breaks teams.

Sometimes it clarifies them.

🎧 A thoughtful, grounded, and big-picture conversation about leadership, patience, and the uncomfortable middle ground between trust and frustration — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.

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Wisconsin Badgers head coach Luke Fickell joins Wilde and Tausch. Discussion of the evolution of the NCAA Transfer Portal, NIL, the outlook for Wisconsin football in 2026, and more.

ESPN NFL Nation reporter Rob Demovsky joins Kyle, Brust & Nortman to break down Matt LaFleur’s contract extension, Jeff Hafley leaving Green Bay for Miami, and what changes could be coming next for the Packers’ coaching staff. Rob also explains why the organization is prioritizing stability, how Ed Policy is approaching his first major decisions, and what this all means for the Packers heading into the offseason.

Former Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Bryan Bulaga joins Wilde and Tausch for his weekly appearance. Discussion of what's next for the Green Bay Packers this offseason - particularly when hiring a new defensive coordinator - and more.

ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy with breaking news, league-wide context, and a blunt assessment of where professional football is headed next — including why an 18-game regular season is no longer a matter of if, but when.

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The segment opens with immediate Packers news, as Schefter provides updates on Green Bay’s defensive coordinator search following Jeff Hafley’s departure. He confirms the Packers are interviewing Christian Parker, Jonathan Gannon, and Durante Jones, and explains why Jonathan Gannon’s poor head-coaching record in Arizona should not overshadow his reputation as a top-tier defensive mind around the league.

Schefter adds that if Brian Flores does not land a head-coaching job, Minnesota is fully prepared to bring him back — and that teams should not hesitate to overpay elite coordinators, especially in today’s NFL where continuity and scheme stability matter more than ever.

🏈 Matt LaFleur’s contract: a real commitment

Schefter then provides clarity on Matt LaFleur’s extension, confirming:

The deal is multi-year

The money is significant

This is not a “patch-it-up” or symbolic extension

In Schefter’s words, the contract signals that Green Bay made a real commitment, not a lame-duck compromise. That said, he delivers an important reality check:

Almost every NFL coach is on the hot seat every year.

Even elite names like Mike Tomlin, Sean McDermott, and John Harbaugh face pressure annually — extensions don’t eliminate expectations.

🔄 Why the coaching carousel exploded

Schefter breaks down why this cycle reached 10 head-coaching changes, noting:

Owners no longer care about eating $30–50 million in buyouts

Franchise valuations make firing staffs financially irrelevant

Teams exist to sell hope, not patience

In what he calls an “ADD world,” patience is no longer rewarded — and coaching stability is far more fragile than fans realize.

💰 The 18-game season: owners already know the answer

The core of the segment centers on Robert Kraft’s comments, which Schefter agrees were essentially the quiet part said out loud.

Schefter explains:

Owners are “hell-bent” on getting to 18 games

One preseason game would be eliminated

A second bye week would be added

The change will be framed as player-friendly

The real driver is TV inventory and money

Chewy offers a blunt hypothetical:

If players are offered more money, fewer preseason snaps, and extra rest, most will say yes.

🧠 What players SHOULD be demanding

Schefter strongly agrees with the show’s central argument:

Players need to think long-term, not paycheck-to-paycheck.

The crew argues players should demand:

Lifetime health insurance

Long-term medical care for all players, not just stars

Real protection for the majority of players who never see generational wealth

Schefter acknowledges the core problem:

The NFLPA lacks leadership, unity, and leverage.

With every vote counting equally — from Patrick Mahomes to a backup punter — owners have consistently outmaneuvered the union.

📉 Injuries, fatigue & football’s breaking point

The conversation turns sobering as they reflect on:

The explosion of ACL and Achilles injuries

Players becoming “walking wounded” late in seasons

The contradiction between player safety messaging and expansion

Schefter admits:

17 games already felt like a lot. 18 is even more.

Yet he reiterates:

It’s coming anyway.

🎓 College football isn’t slowing down

The discussion widens to college football, where:

Indiana played 16 games

The national championship now lands on January 25

The calendar continues to expand with no real offseason

Schefter points out that downtime for players, coaches, and media is essentially gone — and expansion at both levels is accelerating wear-and-tear earlier than ever.

⚖️ The bottom line

Schefter closes with a reality that defines the entire segment:

Owners are organized

Players are fragmented

Fans complain — and still watch

Football ...

Rob Demovsky joins Jen, Gabe, and Chewy to discuss Matt LaFleur's multiyear contract extension, officially inked over the weekend. Demovsky explains the timeline and what comes next for Green Bay as the offseason continues.

Evan Cohen of Unsportsmanlike joins Jim & Molly as they hold it down on Day 5 of Matt LaFleur contract watch! They discuss what Matt LaFleur actually deserves from the Packers — and should Green Bay make him the highest-paid coach in the NFL? Evan also teases that something could be coming soon, and he validates Molly's feelings of doubt in DC Jeff Hafley's stock as a head-coach candidate! The also dive why Evan wouldn't take Matt LaFleur over ANY of the other coaches in the NFC North, how much responsibility falls on the coaching staff vs. roster construction for their playoff flameout, and why the Packers don’t feel as “nasty” or intimidating as their NFC North rivals. Do the Packers need an IDENTITY CHANGE at head coach?