Andrea Freeman studies the intersection of critical race and class theory with issues of food policy, health, feminism, and consumer credit. Many of her articles explore her pioneering theory of food oppression, which examines how facially neutral food-related law, policy, and government action disproportionately harm marginalized communities. She also studies the effects of racism by credit card companies against consumers. Freeman teaches Constitutional Law, Federal Courts, and Race and Law at the University of Hawaii William S. Richardson School of Law. She is a member of the ACLU of Hawaii Litigation Committee and received the Community Faculty of the Year award in 2015.

• [email protected]
• Andrea's book: https://www.amazon.com/Skimmed-Breastfeeding-Injustice-Andrea-Freeman/dp/1503601129

• Being a Law Professor - 1:36
• Spending more time protesting than being at school - 2:22
• Her background - 4:04
• When she started to study law - 4:54
• Wanting to be a Law Professor - 7:29
• Food, racial discrimination, and injustice - 8:47
• Connections between food and racism - 9:37
• About her book: Skimmed - 12:25
• Food and racism - 15:17
• Stereotypes and injustice - 17:53
• Breastfeeding discrimination - 20:13
• The type of issue that needs a social movement - 26:32
• We need a cultural change - 26:55
• Areas that need reform - 28:03

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Roberta D. Liebenberg and Stephanie A. Scharf are the co-authors of a joint-report by the American Bar Association and ALM Intelligence called Walking Out the Door: the facts, figures, and future of experienced women lawyers in private practice. This report addresses why senior women are far more likely than men to leave the practice of law. Stay tuned!

• https://www.americanbar.org/products/inv/book/391971040/

• Talking about their research study - 1:31
• the percentage of women at different levels and their income - 3:06
• The everyday experience for women practicing law - 3:48
• Demonstrating their research - 4:27
• Is everything impacted by gender? - 5:09
• Everyday experience for women and men - 6:34
• Law firms management - 7:53
• What happens with meritocracy? - 10:10
• Results of the research when it comes to women's salary - 11:53
• Payment differences are defined by gender? - 12:06
• Clients are increasingly demanding - 14:13
• Law firms addressing the issue of retaining women lawyers - 15:30
• To implement a change, you'll need a strategy - 16:44
• Programs to keep women at law firms - 17:52
• A gender pay gap - 18:15
• The importance of transparency in the compensation system - 21:44
• Areas in which innovation is needed - 24:36

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Dana Rosenfeld is a Managing Partner at Kelley Drye Advertising Law. She is a member of the firm's Executive Committee and past chair of the firm's Privacy and Information Security practice. In the area of privacy and data security, Dana assists clients in complying with state and federal privacy and information security laws, as well as advice on best practices and self-regulatory programs. Furthermore, Dana advises major consumer financial services companies and service providers in connection with FTC and CFPB investigations involving marketing and billing practices, debt collection and data security. Enjoy this episode!

• https://www.kelleydrye.com/Our-People/Dana-B-Rosenfeld
• https://www.facebook.com/KelleyDryeAdvertisingLaw/
• https://www.linkedin.com/company/kelley-drye-&-warren-llp
• https://twitter.com/kelleydrye

• Wanting to work as a lawyer - 2:33
• Being specialized in the area since College - 2:47
• Representing companies under investigation - 3:21
• Figuring out how to change law firms - 5:22
• Why she decided to come to Kelley Drye - 5:48
• Feeling comfortable working at Kelley Drye - 6:03
• Using technology tools to assist better the clients - 8:20
• Why transparency is so important - 9:08
• How she decided to manage and be the leader of the firm - 10:31
• Having great mentors in her career - 14:04
• Two main things the firm is focusing on - 17:11
• The client service innovation community - 20:23
• The value of diversity in a Firm - 21:01
• The role of women in the firm - 23:07
• Having a lot of training programs for diversity - 25:52
• The first step is focusing on being an excellent lawyer - 27:02

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Jessica Robinson is the Vice President of Client Services at Casepoint. She plays an important role as Casepoint continues the expansion of its user base and resources it dedicates to client relationships and needs. Casepoint is a technology company focused on the digital transformation of litigation discovery. Jessica shares her background, her company mission, and other insights about her role at Casepoint. Enjoy!

• https://www.linkedin.com/company/casepoint-llc
• https://twitter.com/CasePoint
• https://www.casepoint.com/careers/

• How Jessica decided to go to law school - 1:43
• Having multiple advanced degrees - 2:49
• Her career experience - 4:23
• The legal field is expanding - 6:09
• Aren't law firms just for lawyers? - 6:59
• Jessica's MBA story - 8:40
• Her first exposure to an old school law firm - 11:59
• Being project manager - 13:05
• Do not be scared to lose a job - 14:10
• What she thinks about project management - 15:07
• What Casepoint does - 17:24
• Casepoint's culture - 18:40
• The future of the industry on the technology side - 19:40
• Applying her skill set to add value to the company - 23:49
• Describing her management style - 24:38
• Leadership is more than management - 26:43
• A piece of advice for those people who are working at legal technology - 29:47

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Kate Reder Sheikh is a Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa. She covers San Francisco and Silicon Valley. Her focus is on providing a concierge level of service to associates and clients alike. Leveraging her background as a litigator in San Francisco, Kate has unparalleled access to roles and firms in the Northern California market. Kate is an avid traveler—she and her husband have been to 27 countries together since 2011. A San Francisco native, Kate spent three years as an expat in Singapore and London before returning to the Bay Area in 2017. Stay tuned and enjoy!

Episode Resources

• https://www.mlaglobal.com/en
• https://www.mlaglobal.com/en/people/kate-reder-sheikh
• [email protected]

Episode Highlights

• Kate's expertise and background - 1:16
• Moving to Singapore - 2:11
• Being a legal recruiter - 3:10
• Transitioning to another job while pregnant - 5:16
• Difference between what is on paper and what you communicate - 6:35
• HR needs to take some issues seriously - 9:50
• Coaching people - 10:52
• Be firm and do not show weakness - 11:22
• Encouraging her clients - 12:45
• An issue that happens in big law - 14:07
• Kate's thoughts and challenges - 18:48
• Are women a default? - 20:00
• There's an issue with the word "unlimited" - 21:02
• Parent Programs - 24:56
• An issue that is not a women's issue - 25:39

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Lisa Kirby is the Chief Intelligence & Knowledge Sharing Officer at Diversity Lab. Lisa brings 20 years of experience in the legal profession: served as a practicing attorney, talent management professionals, and law firm consultant. Lisa began her career as a litigator, practicing at two large law firms. At Diversity Lab, among many other duties, Lisa has led the creation and implementation of the needle-moving Mansfield Rule, now in its second certification year. She is a sought-after speaker who has been featured as a keynote speaker, presenter, and panelist on a variety of topics related to diversity & inclusion in the legal profession. Lisa is also a prolific author, having contributed articles on innovative ideas in diversity and professional development to publications like The American Lawyer, Law Practice, and Professional Development Quarterly.

Episode Resources

• https://www.diversitylab.com/
• https://www.diversitylab.com/team_members/lisa-kirby/
• https://twitter.com/DiversityLabCo

Episode Highlights

• What is Diversity Lab - 1:32
• Diversity and Inclusion in the legal profession - 1:44
• Working with law firm partners - 3:19
• Diversity Lab's crew - 10:06
• Doing research - 10:20
• Their goal - 15:10
• Having a resource library - 15:31
• Some common misconceptions - 16:40
• Considering people - 17:47
• Future for the industry - 20:02
• Be as inclusive as possible - 20:40
• Lawyers with disabilities and inclusive practices - 21:33
• New considerations about the legal industry - 23:49
• Diversity of law schools - 24:56

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Kristin Tyler is a mom, wife, lawyer, legal tech entrepreneur, domestic enthusiast, and co-founder of LAWCLERK. She runs on coffee, wine, and all things gluten-free. Kristin is launching LAWCLERK's marketing and business development efforts, with a focus on helping busy attorneys to rethink their workflows with the LAWCLERK marketplace. Stay tuned and enjoy!

• https://www.lawclerk.legal/
• https://twitter.com/kristintyler?lang=en
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-tyler-49755713

• Kristin's background - 2:03
• Having political aspirations - 3:29
• Happy to be a lawyer - 4:57
• The process of leaving the bigger firm - 7:49
• LAWCLERK's foundation and services - 8:57
• A Freelance lawyers network - 11:30
• Attorneys with decades of experience - 13:11
• Her creative brand - 17:58
• Do your homework and talk to smart people - 18:44
• LAWCLERK's future - 10:13
• Focus on helping new customers - 20:47
• Tell people when you need help - 22:18
• Hiring freelance lawyers - 24:15

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Andrea (Andie) S. Kramer has a sophisticated and unique multidisciplinary legal practice that covers all aspects of financial transactions and derivatives: with a focus on taxation, regulation, contract design, trading operations, and documentation. She and Al Harris are lawyers and the authors of "It's Not You, It's your Workplace". They talk about their book that offers a fresh approach to understanding why women's relationships with other women at work can be difficult. Andie and Al challenge the positions that women are inherently nasty back-stabbers who cannot get along with each other. Stay tuned and enjoy!

Episode Resources

• https://andieandal.com/about/
• [email protected]
• https://www.facebook.com/breakingthroughbias/
• https://twitter.com/AndieandAl
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaskramer
• https://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-You-Workplace-Conflict/dp/1473697263

Episode Highlights

• Andie and Al's background - 1:52
• Being married - 2:52
• Stereotypes and women in work - 4:04
• Hating working with women? - 12:16
• Women do not get along well with other women - 5:58
• Complex relationships in the workplace - 6:48
• No evidence that women are mean - 8:17
• It's not women, it's the workplace - 9:04
• What is a gendered workplace? - 9:27
• Gender and workplaces - 12:16
• Stereotypes about women and social identities - 12:44
• Not me distinctive in expectations or race - 14:55
• What do we need to do? - 17:29
• Gendered workplaces - 18:20
• We need a new approach: diversity and inclusion training - 19:00
• Being prepared to try - 24:30
• The objective is to understand the other person - 25:03
• It's not about you, it's about understanding the other person - 25:32

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Jen Dawson is the Managing Director at Hemington Wealth Management, she helps clients get crystal clear about what's most important in life and feel connected to the financial plan that supports their vision. She advises clients with a focus on financial freedom, college funding tactics, tax reduction strategies, and proactive planning ahead for worst-case scenarios such as death or disability. Today, she's here to share with us her most recent experience as one of the authors of a new paper: What Do Breadwinner Women Lawyers Want? Stay tuned, learn, and enjoy!

• http://www.hemingtonwm.com/?team=jen-dawson
• [email protected]
• https://www.hemingtonwm.com/breadwinner-women-lawyers/

• A study of women and wealth - 1:47
• Defining a "Breadwinner Woman" - 1:57
• 65% of their advisors are women - 2:25
• Focusing on financial planning - 2:32
• Breadwinner Women Lawyer - 2:45
• Talking about the survey - 3:14
• Women associates and female doctors - 4:04
• Starting late and in debt - 6:00
• A key frustration that appears in the survey result - 7:00
• Leveraging your time - 10:02
• Download the study online - 11:09
• The second frustration that the survey identifies - 11:36
• It's all about progress, not perfection - 14:07
• Income and expenses - 16:05
• By the time you are 45 it is important to have a formal financial plan - 16:35
• Dissatisfaction with women lawyers? - 17:40
• Law firm mentality and the pressure of time - 20:05
• Helping clients with financial health -21:19
• Being clear of what is most important in life - 21:47
• Counsel for a brand-new lawyer - 23:07

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Lynnette D. Espy-Williams serves as the Cozen O'Connor Firm Chief Diversity Officer. Lynnette has experience in litigating a wide variety of civil and commercial matters including: those pertaining to mass and complex torts, professional liability, premises liability, products liability, contract disputes, and extracontractual disputes including defending bad faith claims. Lynnette also frequently defends various entities in premises liability matters involving acts of negligent third parties, negligent or improper maintenance of premises, and inadequate security.

Episode Resources

• https://www.cozen.com/people/bios/espy-williams-lynnette
• [email protected]
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnetteespywilliams

Episode Highlights

• Lynnette's decision to go to law school - 1:46
• Wanting to be a lawyer before knowing what that meant - 2:17
• Lynnette's background - 2:56
• Growing as a lawyer in a firm - 3:59
• Getting involved as a Chief Diversity Officer - 5:05
• Balancing being a Chief Diversity Officer and practicing law - 6:14
• Helping women and diverse culture - 10:18
• Is there a problem with diversity? - 10:40
• Educating and providing training for lawyers - 13:50
• Decisions made by two people behind closed doors - 17:26
• Sometimes all you need is consideration - 18:18
• What does true diversity look like in big law -21:56
• Making an impact on diversity inclusion - 25:00
• Bringing more diversity to the firm - 27:00
• A piece of advice for young diverse lawyers - 28:05

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