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  • Using Your Law Degree For Good with Dale Margolin Cecka - Episode 184

    In this episode, host Kathryn Rubino interviews Dale Margolin Cecka, Albany Law School professor and director of family violence litigation. Discover her journey in law, challenges in child advocacy, and insights on family law education. Gain a deeper understanding of domestic violence legislation, its impact on survivors, and potential legal reforms. A must-listen for anyone interested in law, justice, and societal change!

    Highlights

    • Why law school: a journey to child advocacy.
    • Transition from child advocacy to family law.
    • Challenges with systems in child advocacy.
    • Discovering a passion for family law.
    • Law school clinics: bridging practice and theory.
    • Role of clinics in true legal education.
    • Traits that align with family law practice.
    • Violence Against Women Act's impact and shortcomings.
    • Critical issues with protective orders enforcement.
    • Need for public education on domestic abuse.
    • Future of domestic violence law reform.

    Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/dale-margolin-cecka-202255165/
    • https://www.salon.com/2024/08/21/it-ends-with-us-domestic-violence-lawyer/
    • https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/domestic-violence-rebecca-cheptegei
    • https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/IPV-Prevention-Resource_508.pdf#:~:text=Data%20from%20the%20National%20Intimate%20Partner%20and%20Sexual,etc.%29%20from%20an%20intimate%20partner%20in%20their%20lifetime
    • https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/child-custody-evaluators-beliefs-about-domestic-abuse-allegations

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    29 min
  • Former Biglaw Partner Writes Biting Novel Dishing On What's Wrong With The Profession with Luba Shur - Episode 183

    Join host Kathryn as she chats with Luba Shur, author of "Rule 23" about her journey from law to novelist. Discover her insights on legal ethics, the myth of class actions, and how she balances writing with a legal career. A must-listen for aspiring lawyer-authors!

    Highlights

    • Intersection of reality and fantasy in career choice
    • Early reading and legal career expectations
    • Surprising twists and interesting outcomes in legal career
    • Balancing writing and legal career
    • Rule 23 as a skewer of legal profession dysfunction
    • Inspiration behind the character Vera
    • Creating compelling flawed characters
    • Challenges of legal ethics and ambition
    • Significance of mentorship and legal education critique
    • Reality of Rule 23 and litigation process
    • Future writing projects exploring startup culture
    • Advice for balancing legal careers with writing

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    Links and Resources

    • https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0D8K6SJXS?ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&social_share=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&skipTwisterOG=1
    • https://www.audible.com/pd/Rule-23-Audiobook/B0D9HYRMFR?action_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp
    • https://www.instagram.com/luba.shur/?hl=en
    • https://www.tiktok.com/@luba.shur
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/luba-shur-7b73033a/

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    25 min
  • How To Create A Fulfilling Law Practice with Calyssa Zellars and Kya Henley - Episode 182

    Discover the inspiring journeys of Calyssa Zellars Kya Henley, founders of Saint Park Law, on this episode of the Jabot Podcast! Learn how these two dynamic lawyers navigated non-linear career paths, left big law to start their own firm, and stayed true to their mission. Gain insights into their unique approach to crisis management and investigations, the importance of intentional practice, and how they've blended personal passion with professional excellence. Don't miss this episode for a fresh take on entrepreneurship in law!

    Highlights

    • Why law school? Personal motivations for impactful careers.
    • Career transition: Becoming civil rights attorneys.
    • Non-linear career path: From Detroit Lions to PR.
    • Public defender experience: Passion fueled by Trayvon Martin case.
    • Entrepreneurship: Founding Saint Park Law.
    • Building a mission: Aligning skills with passion.
    • Identity in firm name: Personal maternal lineage inspiration.
    • Balancing work and life: Strategies for managing mental health.
    • Advice for new lawyers: "No one knows you better than you."
    • Encouragement to be pioneers: Charting unique career paths.

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    Links and Resources

    • https://www.saintparklaw.com/
    • https://www.instagram.com/saintparklaw/
    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/saint-park-llp/about/

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    26 min
  • Harvard Law Grad Shares What You Really Need To Know Before Applying To Law School with Calandra Almond - Episode 181

    Join Kathryn Rubino as she chats with Harvard Law grad and Juris Education admissions counselor Calandra Almond. Discover how to navigate law school admissions, balance career goals, and set realistic expectations. Almond's personal journey offers invaluable insights—don't miss out!

    Highlights

    • Personal law school journey.
    • Considering what you want your life to look like.
    • Admissions counseling and career mistakes.
    • Making realistic decisions about law school.
    • The importance of the LSAT.
    • Diversity in law school admissions and potential impacts.
    • Be true to yourself and what you want out of life.

    Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources https://lc.cx/GMIpZj https://www.linkedin.com/in/calandra-almond

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    23 min
  • Writing The Kind Of Legal Story You Want To Read with Lori Duff - Episode 180

    In this episode, Kathryn chats with Lori Duff, author of the upcoming book, "Devil's Defense." Lori shares candid insights about her accidental journey into law, her love for trial work, and the striking realism that underpins her novel. Discover her struggles balancing a legal career with writing, the hilarious challenges of introducing technology to courts during COVID, and her advice for lawyers with creative passions. This episode offers a compelling portrait of a small-town lawyer's life and the passion driving her literary journey.

    Highlights

    • Lori's decision to go to law school.
    • The connection between performance and trial work.
    • Building a practice in a small town.
    • Incorporating small-town southern life in "Devil's Defense."
    • Realistic portrayal of legal practice in the book.
    • Impact of politician's confirmation hearing on Lori's writing.
    • Developing the "Fisher At Law" series.
    • Balancing writing with legal practice.
    • Impact of COVID on legal practice and Lori's role in the state-level response.
    • Frustrations with technology adoption in the legal field.
    • Technology's lasting implications in law post-COVID.
    • Navigating from conception to publication as an author.
    • Importance of finding time for personal passions.

    Episode Resources

    • https://www.loriduffwrites.com/
    • https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Devils-Defense/Lori-B-Duff/9781647427368

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    26 min
  • Figuring Out If Family Law Is For You with Holly J. Moore - Episode 179

    Dive into The Jabot podcast with Kathryn Rubino featuring Holly J. Moore, founder of Moore Family Law! Holly shares her journey from soul-sucking construction defect cases to the emotionally charged world of family law. Learn about the realities, challenges, and rewards of starting your own firm. Find out why family law "finds you" and get inspired by her tips for aspiring lawyers. Don't miss this engaging and honest conversation—perfect for anyone interested in the human aspect of legal practice.

    Highlights

    • Why pursue law? Early inspiration.
    • "You don't find family law, family law finds you."
    • Shift from construction law to family law.
    • Managing high stakes and emotional cases.
    • The balance between personal and professional life.
    • Growing a solo practice and team.
    • Hiring a coaching company for business growth.
    • Memorable case with a significant age gap.
    • Common misconceptions about family law from fellow lawyers.
    • The argument against eliminating no-fault divorce.

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    25 min
  • The Power Of Quitting Biglaw To Pursue A Childhood Dream with Jiadai Lin - Episode 178

    Kathryn Rubino chats with Jiadai Lin, author and winner of the Sandra Carpenter Prize for Creative Nonfiction. Discover Jiadai's journey from big law to heartfelt storytelling, balancing law and literature with grace. Don't miss this inspiring conversation on following your true passion!

    Highlights

    • The straightforwardness of a legal career versus the uncertainty of a writing career.
    • Jiadai's compartmentalization of her law career and writing career.
    • The emotional impact and challenges of leaving Big Law to pursue writing.
    • The struggle and eventual acceptance of failures in her early writing career.
    • The flexibility and benefits of working at a startup law firm while writing.
    • The significant impact of winning the Sandra Carpenter Prize.
    • The deep personal nature of her writing and its vulnerability.
    • The role of memory and its imperfection in writing memoirs.
    • Advice for lawyers harboring creative ambitions.
    • The importance of giving oneself permission to pursue passions.

    Links and Resourceshttps://www.scmemorialfund.com/

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    25 min
  • Biglaw Firm Steps Up Big In Pro Bono with Rachel Elkin - Episode 177

    Join host Kathryn Rubino who chats with Rachel Elkin, Pro Bono Counsel at Haynes Boone. Discover Rachel's journey from a family of lawyers to championing public interest work and navigating her unexpected transition into Big Law. Gain insights on the rewarding and challenging aspects of pro bono work and how it shapes careers and communities. A must-listen for legal enthusiasts and those inspired by impactful lawyering.

    Highlights

    • Why Rachel Elkin went to law school.
    • First exposure to public interest law.
    • Importance of law school clinics.
    • Key mentorship in law school.
    • How Rachel secured her first nonprofit job.
    • Transitioning from nonprofit to big law.
    • Role and importance of a pro bono counsel.
    • Managing pro bono case selection.
    • Balancing billable hours with pro bono work.
    • Rachel's long-term goals for the firm's pro bono program.

    Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

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    26 min
  • Law As The First Step In Nuclear Weapon Abolition with Charles Moxley - Episode 176

    Join host Kathryn Rubino in a riveting episode with law professor Charles Moxley, expert and author of "Nuclear Weapons and International Law". Discover the legal complexities and real-world implications of nuclear policy, deterrence, and modernization. Can law guide us towards nuclear abolition? Stay informed and engaged!

    Highlights

    • Examining the US's nuclear policies versus international law.
    • The esoteric nature of international law and its neglect.
    • Different alerts and readiness levels in nuclear weapons policy.
    • Legal principle of precaution and US non-compliance.
    • Distinction, proportionality, and necessity in nuclear law.
    • Nuclear deterrence vs. readiness explained.
    • Russia-Ukraine conflict's impact on nuclear weapon risks.
    • Failures in US policy to reconsider nuclear weapon modernization.
    • The inadequate concern among younger generations about nuclear risks.
    • Comparison between legal treatments of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons.
    • Appeal to consider law as the path to nuclear abolition.

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    29 min
  • From Child Star To Lawyer with Kelly Hyman - Episode 175

    Kathryn Rubino welcomes Kelly Hyman, founder of the Hyman Law Firm and host of "Once Upon a Crime in Hollywood". Journey through Kelly's shift from a childhood acting career to making a significant impact in the legal world, advocating for victims of human trafficking and navigating the complexities of starting her own law firm. Kelly shares her passion for true crime and how her podcast, focusing on Hollywood-related cases with female victims, aims to make a difference. An inspiring listen for anyone interested in law, justice, and compelling storytelling!

    Highlights

    • The impact of a 65-year-old law school peer.
    • Supported into acting career by family friend Charlton Heston.
    • Founding her own firm: balancing passion and practicality.
    • Human trafficking and mass torts: main practice areas.
    • Podcasting inspired by appearance on Nancy Grace's show.
    • True crime podcast motivated by fascination with mysteries.
    • Focus on cases affecting women in the entertainment industry.

    Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

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    24 min

About The Jabot

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We are an offshoot of the Above the Law legal blog. But we are focused on the challenges women, people of color, LGBTQIA, and other diverse populations face in the legal industry.

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