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Below, we’ve compiled some of the key points discussed in the Jameson Files Episode 132. To enjoy the full conversation between our very own Carrie Webber and Laurie Owens, you can watch on YouTube or listen to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, or Spotify.
Carrie Webber:Welcome to the Jameson Files. I'm your host, Carrie Webber. Thank you for being with us once again for another fantastic episode, with an amazing guest. We want to continue to bring you great information, excellent guests and resources and tools that help you grow and thrive in your ideal dental journey.
I am so happy to have a phenomenal guest with us today, who's going to talk about a very popular topic: medical billing. Laurie Owens is the director of medical billing for Devdent and has been teaching, coaching, lecturing, and training on medical billing for about 18 years. And so what we want to dive into right now in this episode is the question of, is your practice ready for medical billing? But first, Laurie, I would love to have you share a little bit about your dental story. How did you end up where you are today as such a premier instructor in the dental field?
Laurie’s Springboard Into Medical Billing
Laurie Owens:So I started out working for Dr. Michael Cohen and, as most people know, Dr. Cohen is the epitome of continuing education. So within two weeks of being hired, and with no dental experience, I was going to a CE course on bacteremia. And I sat next to our hygienist, Elizabeth, and said, “If we're making people sick, how can this be considered dental?” And she said, “That's a good question. I don't know.” And that was my launch pad to saying, “Why are we billing dental insurance when it really has to do with somebody's health?”
We were a perio office and doing lots of oral surgeries. And I said, “I think this is something important, and I really want to figure out how this might apply to what we do. So the doctors, of course, being such a busy office, said, basically, “That’s fine, but we can't have you do it during work hours because we're extremely busy.”
Now, mind you, I did dental insurance, treatment plans, answering phones, meeting with pay—the whole gambit. So I totally understood, and I took it on myself to learn at home. I paid a guy a hundred dollars to look at my faxed claims. I faxed him the claim, they were fictitious patients, and he would fax back corrections. And so that's how I started, by wanting to make sure I was doing things right.
So I became a certified professional biller with the APC. A lot of people think, “Oh, well, it's just the oral cavity.” It's not; it's the whole body. When you learn and you get credentialed, you have to learn the whole body. If I needed to, I could do a retina detachment right now, or spinal fusion.
I wanted to make sure our offices were doing things right and legal. That was the whole reason behind any credentialing I've obtained. I want to make sure that what I'm doing and teaching is proper. And I also bill for six offices myself, because I'm not going to teach something that I won't do.
Some Examples of the Need for Medical Billing
I don't want you to think that everybody who walks through your doors is a medical billing case. But there are things that we come across in dentistry, and it could be something that you could help them with, like a cancer patient who might be in remission having an adverse effect to their antineoplastic or auto-immune medications. So you think about that, what are they going to do? They might lose all their teeth because it's just the way that medication runs its course.
And I also have a bonus daughter because of dentistry. Her dad would ride on our church bus, and one day he called me and said he had a toothache. And this was when I was brand new to dentistry. I said, “Well, you need to go to the dentist.” And he said, “But I don't have dental insurance.” And I said, “But if it hurts,