Recently retired (2012) Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Captain, Bernice Abram, and LAPD Supervising Detective, Michael Brox (ret. 2016), join Billy and Bing for a penetrating conversation about prevailing police culture and its corrosive affects on Black officers and Black communities. This one takes a few minutes to warm up, as they vibe and catch up. But once it does, the heat is intense! Join us for a conversation unlike anything you’ve ever heard. Join us for part 1 and 2 of a recording we call, ‘Take A Knee’.
“Once you enter the academy you’re taught one way, and as soon as you step out, its totally another world; and you have to fit in to get in. And if you break that code of silence, it’s not nice. You’re taught from day one... this is your new family. This is who’s going to back you. It’s the us against them mentality. ... if you’re not a part of us, you’re a part of them... and you’re really shunned away from everything you really believed... But then, unfortunately, when things go wrong and they weren’t quite what seemed... you are very much kicked out, and I mean kicked out.”
Bernice Abram
“The minute that you step out of that thin blue line, or step across that thin blue line, you are subject to retaliation. Now it won’t be obvious... But when that person takes that interview to be promoted, when that person takes that written test to be promoted, all of a sudden his name gets passed over, or he gets a less(er) score, and nobody will say that’s it’s because you stepped across that line... and that’s the retaliation people talk about. You won’t get that special position that you’ve been working hard for... and even if you do make it, they will make it so difficult for you to get through that it’s unreal.”
Michael Brox
Learn more about Bernice’s company, Beverage Brim, at https://www.beveragebrim.com
Find Michael’s memoir entitled, Black N Blue, on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Being-Black-Blue-Thirty-Five-Tragedies/dp/0692126341
WARNING: This podcast contains some explicit language.