The Kronos Group Podcast

Jerry Brazie sits down with Eric Robinson — 12-year senior pastor turned 24-year FBI agent — for one of the most honest conversations The Kronos Group has ever put on tape. Eric worked counterterrorism, crimes against children, SWAT, public corruption, gangs, and informant recruitment across his career. But the thing that made him exceptional wasn't the gun or the badge. It was the 12 years he spent learning how to connect with people before he ever walked into the Bureau.

This episode covers the real scope of child exploitation in America — and why it isn't talked about enough. How staying calm in the most extreme moments gets you further than anger ever will. What the SWAT team's after-action reviews can teach any business owner about accountability. And how radicalization actually happens — from echo chambers to violent extremism — and what it means for the world we're all raising kids in.

Real talk. No filters. One of the most grounded conversations about human nature you'll hear this year.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

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If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

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New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Jerry Brazie doesn't buy into the "follow your passion" narrative — and he'll tell you exactly why. In this episode, he goes toe-to-toe with Dan Grech, founder of BizHack and creator of Story-Driven Growth, on whether storytelling is actually useful for the lunch-pail entrepreneur just trying to build a business and feed his family.

What comes out of that friction is a raw, real conversation about dark energy vs. light energy, the difference between technicians and entrepreneurs, how a plumber can charge more without changing a single price, and why Jerry's story — homeless at 17, a $25-a-week flophouse, no high school diploma — is actually the blueprint for what's possible.

Practical, honest, and not what either of them expected.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Neil Solomon built companies, ran acquisitions for over two decades, lived out of a backpack while operating businesses across the globe — and then, in two years, lost it all. Not because the system failed. Because he stopped using it.

In this episode, Jerry Brazie and Neil Solomon break down the full story: the collapse, the hubris, the deal-scoring system he trusted for 20 years and then ignored. They get into the real stuff — why smart, experienced people make the same dumb mistakes anyway, what separates a reversible decision from one that destroys everything, and why your business partners are either your best move or your most expensive mistake.

This is a no-filter conversation between two operators who have built and lost and built again. Neil is the author of The 1% Door, and every chapter of it shows up in this conversation.

If you run a business, manage a team, or you're just starting out — this one will hit close to home.

Find Neil Solomon: 📖 The 1% Door — available on Amazon: https://www.theonepercentdoor.com/about

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

What happens to a high achiever when the career they built their whole identity around suddenly disappears?

Janylène Turcotte spent 25 years as an HR executive navigating mergers, acquisitions, and some of the hardest conversations in business. Then the restructuring hit and she was the one being let go. What followed wasn't a breakdown. It was clarity.

Jerry Brazie sits down with Janylène for a real conversation about identity, transformation, and the internal work that actually moves the needle — the kind most men won't admit they need and most podcasts won't have the nerve to go near.

In this episode:

• How getting fired after 25 years taught her more than the career itself
• What hypnotherapy actually is — and how entrepreneurs use it to break stuck patterns
• Why therapy doesn't fix you (and what it does do)
• Somatic therapy and the body-brain connection high performers are tapping into
• Her 9-year sobriety journey and what she got back when the bottle left
• The internal stories keeping smart people stuck — and how to interrupt and rewrite them
• Jerry's own transformation: 100 lbs lost, opioids cold turkey, and operating at his best at 57
• The comparison trap quietly destroying mental health
• What freedom actually looks like when you start doing things your way

 Connect with Janylène: https://www.hypnocoach.ca/

Download the free Your First Million Playbook and full video course inside The Forge.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Jerry Brazie sits down with Justin Spillers, founder of Real Estate Alpha and operator of one of the most tightly run multifamily portfolios in Western Ohio.

Justin is a former attorney who took the leap into real estate entrepreneurship after years at a downtown Columbus law firm. Today at 40, he's managing 600+ doors, running a team of 50 full-time W-2 employees, and doing it all while raising four kids with his high school sweetheart of 17 years.

This conversation doesn't start with the business. It starts with the family — because that's where the real foundation is.

Jerry and Justin talk about what it means to be a driven, present father and husband while also building something that requires everything you've got. They talk about the friends you have to leave behind, the circle you build instead, and the moment the light bulb goes on and you understand what entrepreneurship actually costs.

Then they get into the operational machine — 7-day unit turns, 60-second lead response, AI-powered leasing scorecards, 48-hour maintenance guarantees, daily scoreboards, and a team culture built on winning. And they close on the financial structure: self-funded for 8.5 years, 55% LTV across the entire portfolio, 100% of the equity retained.

If you're building anything — in real estate or outside of it — this episode will recalibrate how you think about what's possible and what it actually takes to get there.

Connect with Justin: realestatealpha.io | LinkedIn: Justin Spillers

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Thirty years in real estate. Hundreds of thousands of square feet. One rule: only invest in what you can touch.

Then I sat down with Mike Cobb — co-founder of ECI Development — and he cracked that rule wide open.

Mike's spent three decades building communities in Belize, Nicaragua, Panama, and Costa Rica. He ran a business in Central America for 33 years without a single bribe. He lived in Nicaragua with his family for 14 years. And he got a 90% malignant lung diagnosis in a Costa Rican hotel room that ended up being the clearest moment of his life.

This episode is about international real estate, yes — but it's really about how to build something that matters and lasts. Jump in.

Michael Cobb

• Book: https://www.amazon.com/How-Buy-Your-Home-Overseas-ebook/dp/B0D3RZ14NY/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0
• Development Advisors Website: https://www.developmentadv.com/

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Steve is in Iceland this week. So it is just Jerry and Matt, and when that happens, the conversation tends to go somewhere useful.

Episode 331 covers three things most business content gets completely wrong.

First, the stacking income streams idea. The internet version of entrepreneurship loves to talk about running three or four small income sources simultaneously. Jerry has a different take — and if you have not successfully operated one real business yet, you probably need to hear it.

Second, the passive income myth. The pitch of buying a boring business, installing a manager, and stepping back is getting publicly walked back by the same people who sold it. Jerry breaks down the actual math on an acquisition, what it costs to hire someone to run it, what your real return looks like, and why none of it works the way it gets described in a social media video.

Third, the buy versus build question. With tens of thousands of baby boomers exiting businesses every day, there may be no better time in history to acquire an operating company rather than build one from scratch. Jerry explains why buying wins almost every time, how to think about finding a deal before you find the money, and what actually needs to happen after you close to make it worth what you paid.

They also get into AI — what it can realistically do, what it cannot do, and why the people selling AI business systems are running a version of the same pitch men like Tom Vu ran in the 1980s.

Straight talk. No theory. No polished framework. Two people who work on this stuff every day having a real conversation about it.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Jerry Brazie sits down with executive coach Don Weber, who spent nearly two decades living under false identities while working undercover for U.S. intelligence — gathering intel on arms dealers, counterfeiters, and worse, all while running a diamond business as cover. He's seen a man assassinated over coffee, slept on his office floor building his first business, and now coaches CEOs and founders on the thing most leaders never get taught: how to separate who you are from what you do.

This one covers ego management, why AI is a tool and not an oracle, imposter syndrome at every income level, and the real reason most people never take the leap. Plus — a McDonald's job at 16 that quietly became the foundation for a $25M company decades later.

If you've ever wondered whether the people you look up to have it more figured out than you do, listen to this one.

Connect with Don Weber: https://drwebercoaching.com

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Jerry Brazie sits down with Josh Zolin — stuntman-turned-CEO, author of "Blue is the New White," host of "Everything They Don't Tell You," and founder of the BITNW Academy. Josh ran a stunt business with his family before pivoting into the trades and building Windy City Equipment by age 27.

This conversation covers why the trades are beating college, Jerry's "knowledge plus action is power" philosophy built from $500M in revenue and a 9th-grade education, why Jerry can't stand the "men crying in their cars" trend, the caveman-and-pterodactyl take on purpose vs. mission, Jerry's 310-lb wake-up call and recovery, the rat experiment that explains belief vs. conditioning, and why emotional intelligence might be the most underrated skill in the trades.

Find Josh at joshzolin.com, grab "Blue is the New White," and check out "Everything They Don't Tell You."

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free to join): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.

Dean Mathews built what most people wouldn't. Employee time tracking — not flashy, not viral, just necessary. And it grew to 18,000 companies because of it.

Jerry and Dean get into: the new competitive moat, fire fast, emotional leadership, and why solving boring problems beats chasing passion every time. Episode 328 of The Kronos Group Podcast.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

Have an idea for a podcast, but don't know where or how to even start one? PodMatch is your one-stop shop. Use our affiliate link here to start your podcasting journey today - https://www.joinpodmatch.com/thekronosgroup

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or someone wanting to make a change in their life and network, join us inside The Kronos Group community (it's free): https://www.skool.com/the-kronos-group/about

Connect with Jerry Brazie on socials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrybrazie
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybrazie
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thekronosgroup
Substack: https://substack.com/@jerrybrazie
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekronosgroup

New episodes weekly. This show is built for business owners who know growth is better when you're not doing it alone.