What’s going on with Infrastructure as Code? On this episode, Corey is joined by Firefly CEO and Co-Founder Ido Neeman to discuss the findings of the State of IaC 2025 report. Throughout their chat, Corey and Ido discuss the evolution of IaC adoption in enterprises, the challenges of managing multi-cloud and multi-IaC environments, and the importance of disaster recovery as code. The conversation also touches on the rise of open-source projects like Open Tofu and the significant role of automation in cloud cost optimization. This episode not only reflects on recent trends, but highlights the importance of robust cloud governance and the continuous need for innovation amidst increasing cloud complexity.

Show Highlights

(0:00) Intro

(0:59) Firefly sponsor read

(1:29) Firefly's semi-pivot to AI

(2:54) The findings of the State of IaC 2025 survey

(5:40) How are people working in multi-cloud environments

(8:14) Is there a responsible way to use Helm charts?

(11:21) The currrent state of Pulumi

(12:46) Problems that can be encountered with large enterprises

(18:07) The continuum between innovation and optimization

(21:51) Firefly sponsor read

(22:31) Are companies actually adopting infrastructure as code?

(28:49) The most interesting ways that Ido has seen enterprises use IaC in production

(33:40) What's stopping companies from fully leveraging IaC?

(41:06) Where you can find more from Ido and Firefly

About Ido Neeman

Ido Neeman is CEO and co-founder of Firefly, and the former CEO and co-founder of Nuweba, the fast and secure serverless platform. To the diversity of roles he has held, he brings more than a decade's experience in the elite Israeli intelligence corps, and later led the technology portfolio at a hedge fund. Today, he is focusing on helping organizations tackle cloud chaos through Infrastructure as Code.

Links

• Firefly’s website: https://www.firefly.ai/
• The State of IaC 2025: https://www.firefly.ai/state-of-iac-2025
• Ido on Twitter: https://x.com/idoneeman?lang=en
• Ido on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ido-neeman/?originalSubdomain=il

Sponsor

Firefly: https://www.firefly.ai/