The Lawyer's Edge

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  • John Kormanik | Time Isn't the Problem: How Lawyers Can Rethink Productivity

    John R. Kormanik, Esq., is on a mission to help attorneys reclaim their purpose, energy, and impact. As a Certified Professional Coach, former trial lawyer, and author of Break the Law: A Story of a Reimagined Career and a Reclaimed Life, John brings decades of experience from the courtroom to the coaching space. Today, he guides attorneys to say "no" to burnout and "yes" to building sustainable careers by rethinking how they approach time, energy, and leadership.

    With more than 20 years of experience as a practicing attorney—including roles as Deputy Attorney General, law firm partner, and firm owner—John understands the unique pressures lawyers face. Now, through his coaching practice, he helps attorneys reengineer their mindset, optimize systems, and rediscover the joy in their work and life.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT RETHINKING PRODUCTIVITY

    When it comes to productivity, most lawyers focus on managing time. John Kormanik says that's the wrong place to start. Time isn't the problem. The real question is how you choose to use it and where you direct your energy.

    John argues that what really holds lawyers back are the stories the profession tells itself. Beliefs like "time management is the answer," "work-life balance is possible," or "grinding nonstop is the only path to success" become badges of honor that actually fuel burnout. He explains why challenging these myths is essential if you want to practice law in a way that lasts.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, John shares a different approach. He talks about building routines you'll actually keep, making better decisions with your 168 hours, and learning to delegate without guilt. He also explains why keeping promises to yourself and rejecting the arrival fallacy are key steps toward a practice—and a life—that feels both productive and sustainable.

    2:24 – Why John says time management is a myth

    4:50 – Seeing your time as worth $400,000 a minute

    7:18 – Work-life balance and why it doesn't work in practice

    12:22 – The five lies lawyers often believe about work and success

    18:27 – How law school and firm culture set these patterns

    22:41 – What John means by "energy management"

    27:37 – Why small routines create real ownership

    31:47 – Moving from "I have to do it myself" to real delegation

    36:40 – The question John asks before saying yes to anything

    41:15 – Why asking for help shows strength, not weakness

    MENTIONED IN TIME ISN'T THE PROBLEM: HOW LAWYERS CAN RETHINK PRODUCTIVITY

    John Kormanik Coaching | LinkedIn

    Break the Law: A Story of a Reimagined Career and a Reclaimed Life by John Kormanik

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

    The Lawyer's Edge

    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    42 min
  • Charlie Jimerson | Rethinking the Billable Hour for Sustainable Law Firm Growth

    Charlie Jimerson is the founder and CEO of Jimerson Birr, a Florida-based business law firm with a national reputation for litigation, regulatory, and transactional work. He's also a U.S. Air Force veteran, a board-certified construction law attorney, and a widely recognized leader in the legal and business communities. Under his leadership, the firm has been repeatedly honored for its workplace culture, growth, and client service while representing various businesses of all sizes and scales as their go-to counsel for legal matters and comprehensive legal expertise, both inside and outside the courtroom.

    From drafting and enforcing contracts, providing grounded executive-level advice, and collecting money owed, Charlie's extensive experience spans all phases of litigation, including alternative dispute resolution, settlement negotiations, and complex commercial cases. His career is distinguished by a rich tapestry of accomplishments that mirror his unwavering commitment to securing favorable outcomes for his clients and reflect a focus on service, quality, and results.

    Prior to founding Jimerson Birr, Charlie honed his skills and expertise at prominent Jacksonville-based commercial litigation and construction law boutique law firms. He currently resides in Ortega with his wife, Ashley, their two children, and their Italian Greyhound dog, Olive.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT LAW FIRM GROWTH

    As a young lawyer, Charlie Jimerson had his pick of opportunities and began his career at a traditional Biglaw firm. But it didn't take long for him to feel disenchanted with what he saw—an industry clinging to outdated models that didn't truly serve clients. Not even four years into practice, Charlie founded Jimerson Birr as a values-driven law firm committed to doing things differently.

    He believed law firms could grow by focusing on service, quality, and results instead of billable hours and burnout. That conviction shaped his approach to building a practice centered on client needs, predictable pricing, and strong culture. By replacing outdated habits with clear processes and accountability, Charlie set out to prove that sustainable growth is possible without sacrificing relationships or outcomes.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise talks with Charlie about how rethinking the billable hour can fuel law firm growth. He shares how subscription pricing and disciplined processes create more value for clients, how AI can enhance efficiency without replacing human judgment, and why culture and leadership are essential to long-term success. Charlie also explains why he sees pressure as a privilege and why "the way it's always been done" is the most dangerous mindset holding firms back.

    2:06 - The inspiration for Jimerson Birr's founding and identity

    5:21 - Problems with the billable hours model of many legal organizations

    9:12 - What's necessary for the legal industry to start retreating from the billable hour crutch

    14:37 – Value-based and subscription pricing around four core areas and three package tiers

    21:15 – Why there should still be room made for the billable hour when necessary

    24:56 - Three biggest things learned from client surveys that impacted changes within the firm

    27:43 - How Charlie uses AI to enhance his organization's practice

    32:20 - Hiring principles and cultural philosophy of Jimerson Birr

    34:45 – Why Charlie views pressure as a privilege and its impact on his choices

    37:28 - Essentials to focus on and the mentality law firm leaders need to reject so the industry can evolve

    MENTIONED IN RETHINKING THE BILLABLE HOUR FOR SUSTAINABLE LAW FIRM GROWTH

    Jimerson Birr | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | Youtube

    Follow Charlie B. Jimerson on LinkedIn

    Process! How Discipline and Consistency Will Set You and Your Business Free by Mike Paton and Lisa González

    Books by Gino Wickman

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    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    42 min
  • Aaron Strauss | The Entrepreneurial Law Firm: Building a Platform, Not Just a Practice

    Aaron Y. Strauss is one of the leading legal advisors in the commercial real estate industry, providing insight and guidance on billions of dollars' worth of transactions during his career. As founder and managing partner of A.Y. Strauss, he has positioned the firm as one of the region's most respected legal organizations for commercial real estate owners, lenders, and sponsors, serving the needs of its clients with utmost care, integrity, and transparency.

    Aaron is responsible for establishing the firm's long-term strategy and vision, overseeing a culture of excellence and respect that recruits, retains, and supports a nationally-recognized team of attorneys and business professionals. A dedicated dealmaker and connector, he strives to identify and facilitate commercial real estate and other opportunities for clients and valued contacts. In 2021, he launched The Dealmakers' Edge with A.Y. Strauss podcast, highlighting the stories, successes, and struggles behind major commercial real estate investors.

    Prior to founding A.Y. Strauss, Aaron practiced for several years at an international law firm in New York and a prominent New Jersey-based law firm.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT BUILDING AN ENTREPRENEURIAL LAW FIRM

    What happens when you get off the beaten path to build something new? It takes an ambitious mind to forego the traditional path of building a legal practice to build a business platform with national reach.

    Aaron Strauss left Biglaw to found and manage A.Y. Strauss, LLC, a rapidly growing entrepreneurial law firm that represents clients in multiple practice areas. Under his leadership, the organization has earned a reputation for delivering thoughtful, strategic counsel with the responsiveness and care of a boutique practice. He's also developed a well-earned reputation for his devotion to connecting and creating growth opportunities for others.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise speaks with Aaron about leading a law firm by prioritizing hiring the right people, fostering a strong culture, expanding practice areas based on client needs, and engaging in practices to manage the stresses and complexities of leadership.

    2:15 - The driver behind more than 40% growth in Aaron's firm over the past year

    4:58 - The major challenge of recruiting and retaining legal talent

    8:49 - Natural rainmakers and relationship nurturers as both being critical to a firm's success

    11:29 - Addition of immigration, cannabis, and family law as new practice areas

    15:30 - How Aaron balances his different roles and the most rewarding aspects of the job

    20:38 - The challenges of leadership in relationship management and decision-making

    26:27 - How mental resilience helps Aaron manage the stresses of his job

    29:03 - Self-practices that Aaron uses to stay grounded and effective as a leader

    33:14 - The value of shifting focus from "I" to "We" and pausing to acknowledge accomplishments

    35:36 - Insights and influences from guests on Aaron's podcast, The Dealmakers' Edge

    MENTIONED IN The Entrepreneurial Law Firm: Building a Platform, Not Just a Practice

    A.Y. Strauss, LLC | LinkedIn

    The Dealmakers' Edge Podcast | "Leadership Lessons for Dealmakers with Elise Holtzman"

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

    The Lawyer's Edge

    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    42 min
  • Brett Amron & Jeffrey Bast | Building a Law Firm Partnership That Lasts

    Jeffrey Bast is a nationally respected attorney with over 30 years of experience in insolvency and commercial litigation. He represents debtors, creditors, trustees, and business stakeholders in workouts, reorganizations, and bankruptcy-related litigation, with a strong focus on avoiding bankruptcy when possible and guiding clients through complex financial transactions and restructuring. Jeff completed two federal bankruptcy clerkships and rose to the level of equity partner at two international law firms. He brings both legal and business acumen to each matter, with deep experience in bankruptcy sales, acquisitions, and financing. Jeff is frequently invited to speak and has been consistently recognized by Chambers USA, Best Lawyers in America, Florida Super Lawyers, Martindale-Hubbell, and the South Florida Legal Guide.

    Brett Amron is a nationally recognized litigator with over 25 years of experience in complex business and bankruptcy litigation, representing fiduciaries, trustees, creditors, and companies in high-stakes matters. A pioneer in utilizing contingency fee structures in insolvency cases, Brett has secured tens of millions of dollars in recoveries for creditors. He served as a prosecutor and later as a partner in a major bankruptcy litigation group. Brett is consistently recognized by Chambers USA, Best Lawyers in America, Florida Super Lawyers, and the National Law Journal. He also serves on committees for the ABA and Federal Bar Association.

    Together, Jeff and Brett are the founding partners of Bast Amron LLP, a nationally recognized boutique law firm based in Miami, Florida. The firm focuses on commercial litigation, insolvency, bankruptcy, and related business disputes, representing debtors, creditors, fiduciaries, and trustees in complex matters nationwide.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT BUILDING A LAW FIRM PARTNERSHIP THAT LASTS

    Jeff and Brett didn't know each other when they each launched solo practices in 2008. By 2009, they had formed a partnership that has now lasted 16 years. What started as two lawyers drinking from a firehose during the financial crisis became something much bigger—a thriving law firm with a national reputation.

    Along the way, they've built a resilient firm culture, navigated economic cycles, and adapted to a shifting legal market. Their approach to law firm leadership, talent retention, and long-term growth shows how intentional communication and shared values can sustain a partnership over decades.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise speaks with Jeff and Brett about the founding decisions that shaped their identity, how they've maintained trust and communication for more than 16 years, and what it takes to run a law firm partnership that's built to last.

    3:07 - The founding values that have guided them for 16 years

    8:07 - How they built trust when they barely knew each other

    14:25 - The weekly communication rituals that keep them aligned

    16:20 - Being open to conversations and opportunities for growth

    20:00 - Learning to run a business through EO, the Entrepreneurs' Organization

    22:49 - Core drivers for evaluating opportunities and staying focused

    24:18 - The culture they're passionate about protecting

    28:54 - Their "hire slow, fire fast" approach to talent

    34:33 - Lessons about staying resilient through changing markets

    39:59 - Why they still feel like they're building a startup after 16 years

    43:08 - The genesis of their podcast and the Business Advantage Forum

    47:53 - Brett's advice on patience and listening

    48:34 - Jeff's philosophy on trust as the foundation of leadership

    MENTIONED IN BUILDING A LAW FIRM PARTNERSHIP THAT LASTS

    Bast Amron LLP

    The Practice Podcast

    Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO)

    Managing Partner Forum

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

    The Lawyer's Edge

    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    51 min
  • Lexlee Overton | Beyond Burnout: Building High-Performing Legal Teams Through Well-Being

    Lexlee Overton is a former trial lawyer who spent more than 30 years in the courtroom before choosing a different path. After experiencing firsthand how the legal profession can wear lawyers down, she founded Mind Over Law to help lawyers move beyond burnout and lead with greater clarity, resilience, and purpose.

    Today, she works with both individual lawyers and legal teams using a science-based approach that combines mindfulness, emotional intelligence, and practical leadership tools to build healthier law firms with better performance.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT LAWYER WELL-BEING AND HIGH-PERFORMING TEAMS

    The legal profession loves to reward hustle, grind it out, power through, keep your head down and just get the work done. But what if the real power comes from doing things differently?

    Lexlee Overton spent decades playing by those rules until she realized something had to change. After 30 years in the courtroom, a health crisis at age 30 made her question everything about how lawyers are supposed to work. She founded Mind Over Law because she believes lawyers can be healthier, happier people and still do excellent work.

    Now she works with individual lawyers and legal teams, teaching them that energy management is way more important than time management. She's discovered that when leaders work on themselves first, they naturally start building better teams.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise speaks with Lexlee about why that "badge of honor" mentality around overwork is actually making lawyers less powerful, what happens when teams are chronically depleted, and how law firm leaders can build the kind of culture that actually attracts and keeps good people.

    2:32 - Lexlee's personal breaking point and wake-up call

    5:22 - The changing attitudes toward mindfulness in law

    9:59 - Warning signs lawyers ignore before burnout hits

    12:51 - Simple practices for skeptical, hard-driving lawyers

    16:06 - The neuroscience of fight-or-flight in legal practice

    18:32 - The statistics on lawyer mental health and malpractice

    20:36 - Reframing the "lose your edge" mentality

    23:15 - Why law firm leaders should care about well-being initiatives

    26:41 - Using biofeedback to demonstrate coherency

    29:12 - The one leadership habit Lexlee would change overnight

    30:58 - Emotional intelligence in high-performing legal teams

    37:16 - Getting started with culture change

    40:04 - The curse of knowledge insight

    MENTIONED IN BEYOND BURNOUT: BUILDING HIGH-PERFORMING LEGAL TEAMS THROUGH WELL-BEING

    Mind Over Law | LinkedIn

    American Bar Association (ABA) study on lawyer depression and substance abuse

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

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    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    42 min
  • Ken Vrana | Banking and Financial Strategy for Law Firms That Want to Grow

    Ken Vrana is a Senior Director at Western Alliance's Juris Banking Group. He specializes in crafting customized capital solutions for law firms, alternative legal service providers, and legal tech companies. With a deep expertise in complex banking relationships, he provides his clients with in-depth guidance on operating and fiduciary account setup and ongoing management, including advising on fraud mitigation tactics, advanced payables, and receivable services to streamline overall firm operations.

    With over two decades of banking experience, Ken serves as a trusted advisor to stakeholders across the legal community and regularly leverages his extensive network to build meaningful connections. His unmatched dedication to navigating clients' transactional and credit banking needs with ease underscores his long-standing commitment to legal professionals nationwide.

    Prior to joining Western Alliance, he had significant tenures at Capital One and Citizens Bank, where he helped clients optimize their operations, drive growth, and enhance profitability. Ken received his Bachelor of Arts from Mount Saint Mary College.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT LAW FIRM BANKING AND FINANCIAL STRATEGY

    Most lawyers master the practice of law but struggle with the business side. From managing cash flow to protecting client funds from cybercrime, the financial realities of running a law firm present challenges most lawyers were never trained to handle.

    Ken Vrana works specifically with law firms to help them make smarter financial decisions and avoid common pitfalls. He sees firsthand how smaller firms are often targeted by fraudsters because they lack the robust protection systems of larger firms, and how many firms leave money on the table by not optimizing their payment processes or banking relationships.

    From startup firms hanging their shingle to established practices pursuing growth through mergers, Ken shares practical insights on choosing the right banking partners, setting up proper fraud protection, and why the relationship with your banker might be more important than you think.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman speaks with Ken about protecting your firm's funds, streamlining cash flow, and why treating your banker as a trusted advisor could be one of the smartest business decisions you make.

    1:51 - Banking challenges facing large and smaller firms

    6:23 - The benefits of using specialized legal banking over a local bank branch

    9:43 - Common mistakes by law firms in their banking and financial management choices

    14:52 - Guidance for new law firms to start on a solid footing with legal banking

    19:21 - Why legal banks like Juris see startup firms as valuable clients

    21:56 - Considerations for law firms pursuing growth

    23:53 - Culture mismatches as a leading cause of merger failures

    27:17 - Players who should be involved in your firm's growth or merger

    29:53 - Reasons for having multiple banking relationships

    32:19 - The importance of regularly re-evaluating if a banking relationship is a good fit

    35:40 - Large firms' lack of immunity to financial management problems, despite having more resources

    37:24 - The value of banking relationships and understanding their importance

    MENTIONED IN BANKING AND FINANCIAL STRATEGY FOR LAW FIRMS THAT WANT TO GROW

    Connect with Ken on LinkedIn

    Western Alliance Bank | LinkedIn

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    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE…

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    41 min
  • Kirsten Branigan | Build an Army: How the Legal Profession Can Retain More Women Lawyers

    Kirsten Branigan was facing an existential crisis. Working at a large New Jersey law firm with young children, she felt the rubber meeting the road in a significant way. She couldn't do everything she wanted to do with her family while meeting all the firm's requirements.

    Instead of just accepting the situation, Kirsten made two bold decisions. She started her own employment law firm built around flexibility and empathy. And when she heard that the New Jersey Women Lawyers Association was dying out because "women of your generation don't care about these issues," she decided to prove that wrong by leading the effort to revitalize the organization.

    Twenty years later, Kirsten's firm is thriving as a refuge for women lawyers, and that "dying" organization now draws over 700 people to its annual gala. As someone currently conducting research with Rutgers University on women's advancement in the legal profession, she has insights on what's actually changing for women lawyers and what isn't.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman speaks with Kirsten about building a law firm culture that works for women lawyers, the challenges that persist across generations, and her advice for creating change: Build an Army.

    3:24 - Why Kirsten left Big Law to start her own firm after an existential crisis

    5:51 - The values and culture Kirsten built into her firm from day one

    9:02 - How to maintain firm ideals while dealing with business pressures

    11:19 - The story of revitalizing the New Jersey Women Lawyers Association

    16:03 - Current challenges women face in the legal profession based on Rutgers research

    23:16 - Positive shifts and trends for women in law

    28:05 - The mental health crisis in the legal profession and available resources

    30:31 - Understanding generational differences and approaching them with empathy

    32:40 - What lawyers can do to make the profession better for everyone

    38:36 - Kirsten's advice for creating lasting change: Build an Army

    MENTIONED IN CREATING LAW FIRM CULTURE THAT WORKS FOR WOMEN LAWYERS

    KS Branigan Law PC | LinkedIn

    New Jersey Women Lawyers Association | LinkedIn

    NAMWOLF

    New Jersey Lawyers Assistance Program

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

    The Lawyer's Edge

    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE…

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    42 min
  • Candisse Williamson | Strategy and Talent: How One General Counsel Builds Legal Teams and Chooses Outside Counsel

    Candisse Williamson is a highly accomplished General Counsel known for her creative deal-making and extensive legal expertise across the entertainment and corporate sectors. After graduating from Northwestern Law, she refined her corporate law skills, with a focus on M&A and private equity, at prestigious firms including Paul Weiss and King & Spalding. Her career then transitioned to entertainment, where she served as VP of Business and Legal Affairs at The Madison Square Garden Company, notably as lead attorney for the renowned Christmas Spectacular Starring the Radio City Rockettes.

    Later, as General Counsel at Skybound Entertainment, Candisse built the company's legal department from the ground up, overseeing all transactions in film, TV, and gaming. She is now the GC of Hartbeat, actor and comedian Kevin Hart's media company. In this role, she established the legal department and now drives strategic deal-making across film, TV, audio, live events, and branded content, all while serving as a key member of the executive team.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT BUILDING LEGAL TEAMS AND MANAGING OUTSIDE COUNSEL

    Most lawyers follow predictable career paths, but some find themselves in industries where the landscape shifts constantly. Candisse Williamson made the transition from corporate M&A at top firms to building legal departments in entertainment companies, where deal structures evolve rapidly and traditional contracts often don't fit.

    As General Counsel at Hartbeat, Kevin Hart's media company, Candisse has learned that success requires more than legal expertise. She's built two legal departments from the ground up, developed strategies for working effectively with outside counsel, and discovered that understanding the business is often more important than perfecting the legal details.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman speaks with Candisse about her journey from Big Law to entertainment, how she approaches building and managing legal teams, and practical advice for lawyers looking to work with entertainment companies.

    2:34 - Why Candisse wanted a legal career and her transition into entertainment law

    5:30 - The biggest challenge for Candisse as VP/General Counsel

    8:06 - How Candisse built Hartbeat's legal department from the ground up

    11:09 - Two main purposes of outside counsel and how Candisse maintains relationships

    13:56 - Candisse's philosophy about handling difficult conversations with outside counsel

    16:52 - How you can rise above the crowded field and grow a book of business as a private practice lawyer

    23:18 - Why Candisse emphasizes diversity in her staffing decisions

    25:43 - Challenges in the constantly evolving world of entertainment and media

    30:03 - Candisse's personality and adaptability as an attorney

    33:53 - Highly critical advice for in-house counsel

    MENTIONED IN STRATEGY AND TALENT: HOW ONE GENERAL COUNSEL BUILDS LEGAL TEAMS AND CHOOSES OUTSIDE COUNSEL

    Hartbeat | LinkedIn | Instagram

    Laugh Out Loud Network: YouTube | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | Snapchat | Twitter/X

    Anthony Desimone | Making AI Work For Your Law Firm Without Compromising Security or Excellence

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

    The Lawyer's Edge

    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    26 min
  • Darin Klemchuk | Leading from Within: How Personal Growth Fuels Law Firm Leadership

    Darin Klemchuk is the CEO of Klemchuk PLLC, a leading litigation, intellectual property, and business law firm based in Dallas, Texas. Klemchuk focuses his practice on IP litigation (patents, trademarks, copyrights, and trade secrets), IP enforcement and anti-counterfeiting programs, and IP strategy. He helps clients build market share and block competitors through intellectual property law.

    Darin is also the co-founder of Engage Workspace for Lawyers, an executive suite built by and for lawyers. He writes and speaks about human performance optimization, marketing and business development, leadership, entrepreneurship, law firm culture, and intellectual property law–all designed to encourage others to rethink what it means to be a lawyer, business owner, and leader in today's legal profession and beyond.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT LAW FIRM LEADERSHIP

    Most lawyers follow the traditional path of making partner, building a book, and climbing the ladder. But what happens when you're wired differently? When the conventional approach to practicing law feels fundamentally wrong for who you are as a person and leader?

    Darin Klemchuk faced exactly this crossroads. With a stable Big Law job, a second child on the way, and zero portable business, he made what most would consider a crazy decision. He walked away from partnership to build something better. Twenty years later, he's proven that leading from within can create strong results in both law and life.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman speaks with Darin about his journey from Big Law to entrepreneurship, his 62-minute plank hold experience, why the "platinum rule" works better than the golden rule for leaders, and how personal growth became the foundation for his firm's success.

    2:06 - Darin's "Jerry Maguire" moment of launching his firm and how he got his first clients

    5:57 - How the seeds of leadership and entrepreneurism were planted in Darin's youth

    7:56 - The difference between leadership, management, and coaching

    9:38 - One critical aspect of leadership that requires self-awareness

    12:49 - The plank hold method and how you can apply it in your practice

    17:33 - The immense value of peer networks for business development

    22:06 - Why Darin designed anti-counterfeiting software programs to protect luxury brands' IP

    23:58 - The better rule to follow for leaders with unique personality traits

    28:15 - What Darin finds fascinating about the concept of happiness

    32:16 - One of the greatest tragedies you can experience when you become successful

    MENTIONED IN LEADING FROM WITHIN: HOW PERSONAL GROWTH FUELS LAW FIRM LEADERSHIP

    Klemchuk PLLC | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram

    Engage Workspace for Lawyers | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram

    Unbeatable Mind

    Entrepreneurs' Organization

    Vistage

    Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill

    Culture Index

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    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the coaching team at The Lawyer's Edge, a training and coaching firm that has been focused exclusively on lawyers and law firms since 2008. Each member of The Lawyer's Edge coaching team is a trained, certified, and experienced professional coach—and either a former practicing attorney or a former law firm marketing and business development professional.

    Whatever your professional objectives, our coaches can help you achieve your goals more quickly, more easily, and with significantly less stress.

    To get connected with your coach, just email the team at [email protected].

    34 min
  • Scott Love | Strategic Lateral Moves for Law Firm Partners

    Scott Love is the President of The Attorney Search Group and host of The Rainmaking Podcast, which helps attorneys, professional service firms, and B2B salespeople get more and better business from all their clients. As a prolific thought leader on the topics of rainmaking, recruiting, and leadership, he helps law firm partners mitigate risk and maximize opportunity when transitioning from one organization to another. With his nuanced understanding of high-stakes negotiations, effective partner transitions, and the delicate risks that come with complex career moves, he has placed attorneys among the Am Law 100 and 200 in corporate, finance, private equity, and investment management practices.

    Scott has also written numerous articles and authored three books on his expertise, been quoted in dozens of premium publications (such as the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, and Business Insider), and been a popular speaker at conferences, retreats, conventions, sales meetings, and trade associations. Additionally, he served for seven years as a member of the Board of Directors of the National Association of Legal Search Consultants and is a member of the National Association for Law Placement.

    WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT LATERAL MOVES FOR LAW FIRM PARTNERS

    Law firm partners often find themselves at a crossroads, wondering if they've outgrown their current firm, or if the grass really is greener elsewhere. The thought of making a lateral move can feel risky and emotionally charged, but what if there's a more strategic way to approach these career decisions?

    Scott Love, who has spent 30 years helping partners navigate these transitions, reveals that the best moves aren't driven by money or ego, but by a clear understanding of what serves your clients best. He breaks down the two main reasons partners actually leave firms, explains why some lawyers hold themselves back from reaching their potential, and shares his proven framework for evaluating whether to stay put or make a move.

    In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman and Scott explore the strategic approach to lateral partner moves, the critical questions to ask before entertaining any offers, and how focusing on your clients' needs often leads to the most successful career decisions.

    1:44 - How you can succeed where you are right now and fulfill your potential

    4:55 - Two primary reasons why partners leave law firms

    5:55 - What your main motivation for a lateral move should be

    7:15 - Internal barriers that can block you from realizing your potential as a rainmaker

    11:00 - Scott's recommendations to help you navigate a lateral transition

    17:20 - Two questions to consider when choosing or trying to decide between firms

    20:01 - What you need to understand about compensation before you engage with new firms

    23:30 - How to mitigate risk and increase the likelihood of a successful move

    30:32 - Two things you can do to successfully bring your clients to a new firm

    33:55 - The strategic question lawyers forget when making a major business move

    MENTIONED IN STRATEGIC LATERAL MOVES FOR LAW FIRM PARTNERS

    The Rainmaking Podcast

    The Attorney Search Group

    "TRP 252: [Lega] Avoid Landmines in Lateral Partner Moves with Hilary Gerzhoy"

    10x Is Easier Than 2x: How World Class Entrepreneurs Achieve More By Doing Less by Dan Sullivan with Dr. Benjamin Hardy

    Get connected with the coaching team: [email protected]

    The Lawyer's Edge

    SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE...

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Ignite Women's Business Development Accelerator, a 9-month business development program created BY women lawyers for women lawyers. Ignite is a carefully designed business development program containing content, coaching, and a community of like-minded women who are committed to becoming rainmakers AND supporting the retention and advancement of other women in the profession.

    If you are interested in either participating in the program or sponsoring a woman in your firm to enroll, learn more about Ignite and sign up for our registration alerts by visiting www.thelawyersedge.com/ignite.

    36 min

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