Sean: Yeah, I 100% agree. And I do believe, you know, nine out of ten businesses fail that statistic. I always say that that's the statistic. Not because you're unlucky or the world economy shifted. It's usually because of behavior and mindset.

If you are so egoistic or you're so high up there with hubris that you think, you know, whatever I'm doing works, and then probably going to be the nine out of ten. But if you're humble enough to say, I need to restructure, I need this.

This is what a lot of these businesses need. Alicia, I love the fact that you know this, that you're doing this, and that you're sharing this with us. Here's what I want to know: With this entire restructuring, what are the key moments in key individuals for this organization to succeed?

Because I'm sure you do a lot of these things, but then I'm also sure that not a lot of them push through, like the reorganization that you suggest would face some resistance from the team because they're comfortable with where they are.

They don't want to change. I don't want more work on my plate. Right. What are those key moments or key people that you need to have complete buy-in for you to make these things succeed?

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Alicia: It starts at the top. So whoever is in charge, whether that's the founder of the company, the person who is the CEO at 22, the COO, or whoever is in charge, you always need that buy-in from the top and then it starts to trickle down.

One of the first points of resistance can come if you don't invite everyone to the table, literally inviting people to the table. Because the sooner you start to get participation from everyone who works on your team, the greater the likelihood that they will start to accept and embrace the changes. Why? Because they are a part of those changes.

They have a voice. They can express their opinion and know that their opinion is valued. And that's another important thing. You have to listen as the leader that's in the room with the rest of your team. You have to listen, listen to what everyone is saying, encourage everyone to contribute. Another huge point of resistance, Sean, happens when we start to get into the process because.

People have a natural tendency to want to hoard information. Yeah, because they think if I tell you how I do what I do, you're going to use this to replace me. You might try. You might get a robot to replace me. You might find some type of automation to replace me. You might find another person to replace me. So I'm not going to tell you everything that I do.

I might give you a little information, but I'm not going to tell you everything. But again, you just have to get people into the habit of understanding that it's to everyone's benefit. If things are documented because people will get sick, people will have to take time off from work to deal with a sick child, or they may take time off for a holiday or whatever the case may be.

And you have to get them to understand that everything can't stop, and operate only because you are not physically present. We still need to be able to service our customers and produce our products or deliver our services. So please be a team player and tell us how you do what you do.

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Sean: Yeah. And now I'm wondering, did someone tell you, hey, Alicia, why not chemical engineering? Because honestly, like, who? Who does that? Chemical engineering. Right. I studied I.T. I almost got kicked out because I failed 28 units.

But chemical engineering, my goodness. I mean, that's on a different plane, a different level. Like, how were you told by friends and family who loved you? Hey, take this course. It's probably good for you.

Alicia: It was one of my teachers, Sean, my first love when I was in school was actually in journalism. I loved writing. I loved to read. That's what I thought I was going to do. But I was also. It wasn't until I took a chemistry class that I realized, I'm good at this and I like it. I like this.

And when I was applying for university, Sean that I'll never forget my teacher in high school, Mrs. Callis, who's actually from Ukraine. You know, it's crazy all the things going on in Ukraine right now. But she's Ukrainian. She took a particular interest in what degree I wanted to pursue and I told her about chemistry and she said, Well, you know, here's the thing about chemistry.

You'll have to go all the way up to the Ph.D. level before you start to make any real money. Yeah, why don't you try chemical engineering? Yeah. And that was how it came about. I didn't question it. I thought, well, she's my elder. I respect her. I respect and value her opinion. So that's what I'm going to do. Yeah. And it was one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life.

Sean: My goodness. But would you say that? So you finished and graduated in Chemical engineering, hands down. Kudos to you. Love it. Love that you finished it. That's a huge accomplishment. And you wanted to even go through and apply for Coca-Cola, which means that your love for it pierced into wanting to build a career around that.

Would you say that when I followed that advice, it did put me on a pretty good path, but it's just that I met some roadblocks along the way and it was an accident that I started Equilibria? But if I didn't meet these roadblocks, I'd probably be in Coca-Cola right now.

Alicia: That is so true. And you know what's funny, Sean, is I've done a lot of work for Coca-Cola, but as a consultant.

So to those who are listening to us right now or watching us, just know that sometimes we establish these goals, we have these ideas and these visions of what we want to accomplish in life, and just understand that sometimes the opportunity may not always present itself in the way that you thought it would happen, but it will happen in some way, shape, form or fashion. It just may not look the way that you thought it would look.

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Sean: Got it. That's very good. Very good stuff. And Gustavo, what allowed you to get to where you are? All these answers, all these examples, and stories that you have? Were you always a disciple of remote work? How long have you been working remotely to realize these things?

Gustavo: No, as I mentioned earlier, wasn't always. And that's something that I stress in my book because there are people that are in the camp of I always supported remote people that are hated. I'm more into the camp of always exploring what's better and also trying to understand because I work with different companies and show them things are changing.

So it's not once again, my approach is not remote or the office. It's how you can combine the best of both worlds. And for every company, every industry, every job, it's different. And so my take is this is a revolution that's happening.

People showed that they have flexibility not only in the location where they work but actually in scale. When people can change their schedule or adapt it to their family style, their needs, some people like me, I'm better working.

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Sean: So one of the questions you mentioned is culture as well. Is there a necessary culture? Because you said that there are companies who have people in the office. Culture is not that great. They're distant from each other, even though. They are just a few feet away. Is there a necessary culture that has to be established first, or is there a kind of culture that would make for a very good working-from-home or remote team for this to be able to work well?

Gustavo: That's a fantastic question, Sean. I think the most important thing about culture is, first, defining what type of culture you want for your company. There are different types of cultures. You mentioned Elon Musk. He likes what we call aggressive culture and aggressiveness that it's all about, hey, if you have to sleep in the office, work 24 hours, do it.

It's all about results. Doesn't matter about the people. The other extreme of those cultures are companies that are maybe all about people, very people-centric, very tribal, and sometimes overly protective. Now they're all worldly people first. Lots of perks.

Make sure that people and then there are many in-between cultures, like what we call the fearless culture is a culture which it's very aggressive, very innovative. It's looking for lofty goals. But on the other hand, it also takes care of people.

So it's not on people not signing on, only business results, finding the right balance. The most important thing is about defining. But second, is how you intentionally create culture. There are things that, for example, if you are a leader, how you model, know your behavior, not just what you say, but what you do shapes the culture.

Regardless if you're working in an office remotely or a combination of both, you need to spend, for example, between 10 and 15% of the time that you, for example, you're in a meeting or on a call. Spend that time on building interpersonal relationships, for example, the people that work fully, remotely, when they get together once every quarter or twice a year, that time it's mostly spent building relationships.

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Sean: Amazing. Thank you so much, Gustavo. And if there's any advice that you could give struggling business owners struggling to maybe ask their people to get back to a face-to-face office setup, what is your advice to them?

Gustavo: My advice is don't make strategic decisions without involving your people. I mean, Apple, and Google, tried to impose something and it became a mess and then they had to adjust. So save that time and save the PR nightmare and involve your people.

And once again, involving the people doesn't mean that that's going to be a democracy and people are going to vote. It's about getting insights. People see things that leaders fail to see because they are in different positions.

And also that's why you're paying them a lot of money because they're smart people. So use them as a portion of food for thought and don't make those decisions lightly. And most importantly, whatever decision you make, experiment, run a couple of experiments, see what works, and adopt, but also be open to adjusting your behavior from time to time.

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Sean: That's amazing. So what I'm hearing, number one, you were open to anything. Not a lot of people are like that. People are always thinking about, oh, what about my family? If I stop working, how can I feed them? How can I support my parents? So all of these things are clouding and fogging what they want to explore in life.

And as you mentioned, people usually know in their heart, as with all matters of the heart, you just know it when you're there. When you don't even try, you will never know you got all these fogs in front of you.

You'll never know. Number one, you were open to anything. Number two, when that person suggested to you that you're going to make a good coach, you took it. You immediately took it. Unlike other people, they start with doubts about you. You were like, Yeah, you know what? I'm going to try that.

That's something that I've heard for the first time in all my recordings. This is the first time I've ever heard that. And I hope that you guys tuning in today have gotten that as well, especially if you're in that exploration stage. Maybe you're cooped up in your family business. You don't love what you're doing, but it's what your parents started.

This is how you know, this is how you start with the matter of that heart that you have. You just have to be open to anything. When someone tells you, Hey, I think you can be good at this, accept it, Don't reject it. Don't start with doubt. Love what you said. I'm interested in you one day for people who are tuning in, maybe they're curious. How do they start?

If they want to get coached, how do they know if it's for them? You know, how do I know if coaching is for me if I need a coach? What would you say to those kinds of people who are tuning in? What is it about coaching that makes it so important? And I'm being coached right and I know how important it is. But for those people who are tuned in, what is so important about coaching?

Yewande: Yeah, it can sometimes feel like a luxury. I mean, again, I live and breathe this both in terms of coaching others, but then also having my coach. And I know I know how it's transformed my life, right? And every single new coach that I have does. So I always describe it as if you think about people, people mix it up with different things

So if I think about therapy it is more about delving into your past and trying to unwind all of that. And mentorship is more about like, Oh, someone I see has walked a path that I want to walk. So I want them to tell me about how they did what they did. Consulting or problem-solving is, I have a problem. Tell me the answer. Coaching is so unique because the whole idea of coaching is number one, it's 100% focused on you, right? The coach's agenda.

How many times do we ask people things and they give us their opinion? And while opinions are helpful, to your point, I think you said it beautifully, right? Our vision and our clarity get so clouded by so much outside. Yeah. And so the coach's role differs depending on the style of coaching, but fundamentally it is to help you work through and process what's going on for you so that you can achieve and move forward to achieve the goal that you want.

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Sean: So now I'm going to inject a little fun into that. Whereas there are so many thought leaders such as Elon Musk, for example, who will say, work hard and outwork your competition and outwork the rest of the world, because that's when you're going to be able to realize your vision for the company, for yourself, when you're going to beat them black and blue and get way ahead of the game.

I know it's controversial. What do you think about that? Because competition is very, very tough in our world. An age where Google is just one type and click away and information is rampant. You already know what your competitor's pricing model is and so on. How do you beat the competition when you're living life in such a way that you're working less, as you said, for you to have more impact, wouldn't that take away from your business's growth and vision?

Yewande: It's a really good question. The first thing that comes to mind is it depends on what you're trying to achieve and what growth and vision and success mean for you. There's sometimes an assumption that it means the same for everyone and it doesn't. And I think. Even when I think about when I was burning out.

And what I see in my clients is when you're even in that state, you lose focus on the important thing. What's the thing you're trying to achieve? So you're just doing and doing and doing and doing with the assumption that it'll get to where you want. Forget assumptions. Let's start with what you are trying to achieve and then let's be strategic and focused on that.

But I think often we don't think about what we're trying to achieve, so we just go, Oh yeah, if you work harder, you'll achieve the thing, right? It's almost like trial and error. And for me, that's not the way I like to think about things. So that's one thing. Now if I think personally about myself, I fundamentally believe, and this is just my belief that you don't have to work harder to have a greater impact.

Now, in theory, that is true. But you could argue that if you think about exercise, um, if I do, let's say I can do 20 push-ups, right? If I do 40 push-ups every day instead, does that mean I'm stronger? Maybe. If I do 80, does that mean I'm stronger? Maybe. If I do 160, does that mean I'm stronger? Maybe if I do a million a day, does that mean I'm stronger? Maybe not.

I probably would have torn a muscle at some point, either torn a muscle. I have no time for anything else. Um, there's. There's a curve. Yeah. So we have to understand that curve for ourselves and go, what am I trying to achieve and why am I trying to achieve it? Because if I'm damaging my muscle, I'm not creating more impact. I'm working harder. But I'm probably stressing that muscle.

I may be crippling the muscle. I may get to the point where the muscle doesn't work anymore. But I'm still pushing and pushing and pushing and think it's similar in leadership. So if it works for Elon Musk, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work for him, provided he's clear about why that's important. Why is that important now? But I don't think in my experience that doesn't work for a lot of people. And assuming that it does, I think it's probably more detrimental to people creating the impact that they want than otherwise.

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