The Learning Laborers

The Learning Laborers

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  • 33 - Engaging Gen Z with the Sermon on the Mount with Matt Trexler

    In this episode of the Learning Laborers podcast, Denver and Taylor explore the intersection of biblical scholarship and ministry with Matt Trexler, a campus minister at UCLA working with the Reformed University Fellowship (RUF). Matt shares his journey into college ministry, offering insights into his research on the Sermon on the Mount and its impact on college students. They also discuss the cultural moment of Gen Z, their search for purpose and mentorship, and how churches can effectively engage with this generation. With a mix of humor and depth, Matt highlights the importance of creating authentic spaces for students to explore faith and scripture.

    Resources mentioned by Matt in this episode:

    • The Sermon on the Mount and Human Flourishing (Pennington)
    • Sermon on the Mount (Levine)
    • The Christ Book (Bruner)
    • The Anxious Generation (Haidt)
    • Meeting Gen Z (White)
    • Generations (Twenge)
    • Seculosity (Zahl)
    • 00:00 Introduction: Aliens and Ministry
      01:32 Welcome to Learning Laborers Podcast
      02:05 Meet Matt Trexler: Campus Minister
      05:43 Matt's Journey to Ministry
      09:10 Understanding College Ministry
      11:55 Engaging with Gen Z
      18:27 The Power of the Beatitudes
      24:11 Resources for Obedience: Matthew 6
      30:04 Discipleship in a Transient Student Body
      33:21 Jesus as Savior and Life Guide
      34:48 Addressing Difficult Questions
      38:43 The Challenge of Forgiveness
      43:10 Engaging with Gen Z in the Church
      49:45 The Role of Academic Studies in Ministry
      01:01:50 Resource Recommendations for Ministry
      01:05:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
      1 hr 8 min
    • 32 - Pastoring Pastors: An Inside Look at Kaleo Collective with Andy McQuitty

      Join Denver and Taylor in a heartfelt and insightful conversation with Andy McQuitty, founder and CEO of Kaleo Collective.


      They delve into the origins and mission of Kaleo Collective, a network providing support and community for pastors through Zoom cohorts. Andy shares compelling stories from his own 30+ years of pastoral experience and offers wisdom on handling the unique pressures faced by church leaders. If you're a pastor seeking encouragement or simply curious about what it takes to sustain a long-term ministry, this episode promises to be both enlightening and inspiring. Don't miss the curated book recommendations that can prepare you for a marathon of ministry.

      00:00 Welcome and Introduction
      01:31 Introducing Andy McQuitty and Kaleo Collective
      02:58 Denver's Perspective and the Importance of Pastoral Support
      05:11 Andy McQuitty's Background and Ministry Journey
      14:14 The Birth of Kaleo Collective
      17:02 The Vision and Impact of Kaleo Collective
      30:58 Challenges Faced by Pastors
      31:31 A Story of Support: Sean's Experience
      36:32 Personal Soul Care: Steve's Struggle with Anxiety
      38:42 Encouragement for Burned-Out Pastors
      49:37 The Importance of Lifelong Learning
      50:26 Recommended Reads for Pastors
      56:50 Closing Thoughts and Gratitude



      Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

      Support us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

      Books cited/mentioned in this episode:

      • From Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks
      • Life Without Lack by Dallas Willard
      • Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer
      • 1 hr 1 min
      • 31 - Faithful Departures: Discerning God's Voice in Ministry Shifts

        Season 3 kicks off with Denver and Taylor discussing the topic on ministry transitions. Taylor shares about his own ministry transition, where he is leaving the church he grew up in and served on staff for the past decade. Together, Denver and Taylor reflect and creatively interact with the story of Abraham's journey in Genesis 12 to spark conversation about how to faithfully leave a place in order to follow God's call.


        Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

        Support us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.


        Books mentioned/cited in this episode:

        • Covenant & Conversation: Genesis by Jonathan Sacks
        • Genesis by John Goldingay
        • Genesis by James McKeown
        • 40 min
        • 30 - What We're Learning: Transfiguration & Atonement

          In this season two finale, Denver and Taylor reflect on the last 14 episodes and also share about the topics they are currently researching. Denver is studying the Transfiguration of Jesus and its impact on Peter, James, and John. What was the significance of this bizarre experience? And why did Moses and Elijah show up for it?

          Taylor has been spurred on by our conversation with Spencer Owen to dig even deeper into the concept of atonement.  He briefly discusses the term “atonement” and how it relates to the sacrifices outlined in Leviticus. Where did this English word “at-one-ment” even come from?

          Write us at [email protected] to let us know what your favorite episode of Season Two was. We also welcome suggestions for future episode topics or guests! Thank you for listening and being a part of this learning journey with us!

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          Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

          Support us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

          • The Transfiguration of Christ (Patrick Schreiner)
          • This is My Beloved Son (Andreas Andreopoulos)
          • Lamb of the Free (Andrew Rillera)
          • 35 min
          • 29 - Implications of Atonement: Part 2 with Spencer Owen

            Continuing our conversation with Spencer Owen, Denver and Taylor discuss the atonement and the implications our theories of atonement have on how we view God, salvation, and our own discipleship to Jesus.

            Spencer provides several resources if you are interested in hearing more.

            • A Journey through the World of Leviticus by Mark Scarlata
            • Welcoming Gifts by Father Jeremy Davis
            • The Day the Revolution Began by NT Wright
            • Lamb of the Free by Andrew Rillera
            • Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

              Support us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

              1 hr
            • 28 - Rethinking Atonement: Part 1 with Spencer Owen

              What is the significance of Jesus' death? What exactly happens on the cross?

              These and other questions related to Jesus' death and the idea of "atonement" are tackled in this episode. Denver and Taylor have a conversation with Spencer Owen, and the focus is on a close reading of Isaiah 53. We seek to understand how Jesus' death is conceptualized and given significance by the authors of the Bible.

              This is a two-part episode, so stay tuned for the next episode.

              Check out our⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

              Support us on⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

              1 hr 12 min
            • 27 - The Trinity & Prayer with Sam McVay

              What does trinitarian theology have to do with prayer? How can we inspire our communities of faith to engage in movements of prayer? What does it look like to pray the Scriptures?

              In this episode, Denver and Taylor have a delightful chat with the passionate Sam McVay. Sam is keen to explore trinitarian theology - not just on a theoretical level, but also as it relates to the nitty-gritty, everyday life of the church, and especially the church’s prayer life. Sam walks us through a variety of subjects, including the relational dynamics of the trinity, the importance of theologically-centered prayer in the life of the Church, the practice of praying the Scriptures, the primary place of the Lord’s Prayer, and ways to help believers get excited about an hour-long prayer meeting!

              Sam McVay is the founder and president of Disciple Nations, a ministry support network based in Wichita, Kansas which seeks to encourage and equip ministry leaders who engage in prayer and disciple-making initiatives. Be sure to check out the Lord’s Prayer App, along with other resources mentioned in the episode:

              • Delighting in the Trinity (Michael Reeves)

              • Praying Like Monks, Living Like Fools (Tyler Staton)

              • Answering God (Eugene Peterson)

              • Destined for the Throne (Paul Billheimer)

              • Praying the Bible (Donald S. Whitney)

              • Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

                Support us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

                1 hr 8 min
              • 26 - The End of the World & Rapture Theology with Matthew Halsted

                Should our eschatology make us fearful or hopeful? Is there any Scriptural evidence for some kind of coming Rapture event? How should we approach the difficult and complex topic of Last Things?


                In this episode, Taylor and Denver sit down with Dr. Matthew Halstead to talk about his new book, ⁠The End of the World as You Know It: What the Bible Really Says about the End Times (And Why It's Good News)⁠. Matthew is a superb guide into all things eschatological, bringing a wealth of Scriptural knowledge, but also a pastor's heart to approach this conversation with humility and charity. Whatever your particular views on the end times, we think you will really enjoy hearing from Matthew's perspective.


                Matthew is the Associate Professor of Biblical Studies at Eternity Bible College and also authored ⁠Paul and the Meaning of Scripture⁠.

                • ⁠Surprised by Hope⁠ (N.T. Wright)
                • ⁠Reading Revelation Responsibly⁠ (Michael J. Gorman)
                • ⁠The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism⁠ (Daniel G. Hummel)
                • ⁠The NIV Application Commentary: Revelation⁠ (Craig S. Keener)
                • ⁠Unholy Allegiances⁠ (David A. DeSilva)
                • ⁠Discovering Revelation⁠ (David A. DeSilva)
                • ⁠Apocalypse and Allegiance⁠ (J. Nelson Kraybill)
                • ⁠Tyndale New Testament Commentary: Revelation⁠ (Ian Paul)
                • Check out our ⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

                  Support us on ⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

                  1 hr 14 min
                • 25 - Cracking Open the Apocrypha with Matthew McBirth

                  What is the Apocrypha? Why is it included in some Bibles and not in others? Is it safe for an evangelical Protestant to read these “hidden” books?!

                  Denver and Taylor sit down with Matthew McBirth to discuss these questions and others related to the study of Second Temple Jewish literature. Matthew is a Professor of Bible and Ministry at Ozark Christian College in Joplin, Missouri. In this episode, Matthew does a great job explaining why it is so important for students of the Bible to be familiar with works like those found in the Apocrypha, and how this knowledge can enhance their understanding of Scripture within its ancient context.

                  Here are links to the fantastic resources that Matthew and Taylor mentioned towards the end of the episode:

                  Origin of the Bible (Philip W. Comfort, ed.)

                  Introducing the Apocrypha (David DeSilva)

                  David DeSilva YouTube Video

                  The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha (James H. Charlesworth, ed.)

                  Discovering Second Temple Literature (Malka Z. Simkovich)

                  Malka Simkovich OnScript Episode

                  Check out our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠ for articles and more resources.

                  Support us on ⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠. All funds are used to design, create, host, and advertise the podcast.

                  1 hr 13 min
                • 24 - A Fresh Reading of the Familiar Christmas Story

                  Has our traditional, familiar version of the Christmas story distanced us from the Bible's version? Were Mary and Joseph really turned away from inhospitable innkeepers? Did they trek to Bethlehem in the middle of the night? Was Jesus born in a stable? Taylor and Denver dive into Luke 2 as to provide a fresh reading of a familiar (perhaps too familiar) story.

                  Here is a link to an image of a first century Palestinian home.

                  See also chapter one in Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes by Kenneth Bailey.

                  Cited Luke Commentaries:

                  • Diane Chen, NCC
                  • RT France, Teach the Text
                  • Mikeal Parsons, Paideia
                  • See also this blog post on Luke commentaries from Taylor.

                    45 min

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                  Denver is a missionary, Taylor is a pastor, and Matt is a professor. All of them, however, are passionate about bridging the gap between scholarship and ministry. They want to take the insights gained…

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