Conversation with Jannie Hischild on childhood experiences of organized ritual abuse in Ontario, a police investigation, father’s culpability, mother’s complicity, generational abuse, a bent towards evil, trigger smells, the sacrifice of Daniel, conditioned helplessness, early therapy with DID sufferers, matching stories, flesh-eating rituals, occult ends, a vision of Satan, saved by Asperger’s syndrome, UFOs & Greys, seeing a black orb, Satanic psychism, an encounter with Greys, the element of theater, a red orb, a Satanist boyfriend with connections, an O.T.O Lodge in town, power & persuasion, Terry Driver the Abbotsford Killer, a therapist’s betrayal, EMDR, the Pickton farm, Bryce Taylor, Satanists as low-level foot soldiers for the elite, Ewen Cameron & MKULTRA, a network of hospitals for abuse, dungeons, encountering the abusers, malignant narcissists, playing on deep fears, necessary paranoia, learning to trust, recognizing abusers, fragmented memories, alternating alters & missing time, the ice angel, anger and fragmentation, aligning with the power, the highest levels of society, children’s aid, access to children, a preference for boys, the most forbidden thing, the fashion industry and boy-like bodies, tracing back in history, the Druids, the Queen’s initiation, Rosemary’s Baby, an unconscious pregnancy, a child sacrifice, eluding suicide, finding a safe place to remember, loving the baby, body love, emotional overwhelm, alters & memories, a sensation in the brain, the party girl alter, opening a portal via sacrifice, demonization, wanting to confirm forgotten abuses, awfulizing trivialities, self-parody, Sybil, journaling, alters & handwriting, when the door bursts open.